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This is where we say the things we can't say anywhere else to anyone else. Join certified life coach and stillbirth mom Jennifer Senn as she shares stories and has conversations about what life is like after suffering the loss of your baby and of the future you dreamed of before you heard those awful four words. Grief lasts a lifetime but you don't have to struggle with guilt, fear, and the isolation that is so common for loss moms. Navigating Baby Loss will give you inspiration and hope fro ...
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This podcast explores the impact of pregnancy and baby loss, gives you a chance to hear about people’s personal experiences, and learn more about the work being done to support bereaved families and save babies’ lives. It's hosted by Jen Coates, Director of Bereavement Support and Volunteering at Sands, and Caroline Verdon, broadcaster and journalist. Both have been personally touched by baby loss. You’ll hear from all parts of the baby loss community – from parents, to healthcare profession ...
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Send Jen a Text Message In this episode, Christine Davies, a hospital chaplain and spiritual director, shares her profound experiences and approaches to supporting parents who face the heartbreaking ordeal of saying hello and goodbye to their babies on the same day. Christine discusses the importance of rituals and the role of spirituality in copin…
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Send Jen a Text Message In this heartfelt episode, Ashley shares her deeply personal story of loss, grief, and healing after losing her daughter, Willow, at nearly 37 weeks. She talks about the emotional rollercoaster of her pregnancy, the trauma of discovering Willow's heartbeat was gone, and the subsequent emergency C-section. Ashley discusses th…
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Send Jen a Text Message In this episode, we welcome back Dr. Heather Browne, the author of 'Speaking with the Heart,' to discuss the importance of self-love and releasing guilt. Dr. Browne shares profound insights and real-life stories about dealing with the past, the impact of guilt, and how to move forward with compassion for oneself. She also di…
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Send Jen a Text Message Julie Shapiro's Journey: From Devastating Loss to New Purpose Julie Shapiro recounts her deeply personal and heartbreaking journey through stillbirth, grieving during the COVID-19 pandemic, and the steps she took to create Aubrey's Advocate, a non-profit organization providing support for parents who have experienced similar…
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Send Jen a Text Message Parijat Deshpande is the founder and CEO of Ruvelle, the only trauma-informed wellness company specifically dedicated to improving high-risk pregnancy outcomes, reducing preterm birth, and supporting parents on the entire high-risk pregnancy journey. On a mission to end the high-risk pregnancy crisis, she has served and supp…
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Send Jen a Text Message Losing a baby is one of the most devastating experiences anyone can go through. As a mother, the dreams you had for your child and the life you envisioned are shattered. It feels like a piece of your heart has been taken away, leaving you to navigate a world that suddenly feels unrecognizable. Life is different now, and the …
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Send Jen a Text Message I can never get enough of hearing other loss mom's stories and I love bringing their lives into the room because each one is so special and unique. Mary Matt bravely shares her incredible story of the birth of her twinless twin and how she carried him for many weeks knowing she would say hello and goodbye at the same time sh…
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Send Jen a Text Message My two favorite worlds came together when I got to interview Nikki Scott and talk about all things business, books, and how she navigated the loss of her sister and her husband and many dreams she had for her future along with them. Nikki is a salon owner and a loss mom who suffered one devastating loss after another. She wr…
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Send Jen a Text Message When you lose a baby when you already have other children, your thoughts instantly go to how and when to tell the other children. Ariane Sroubek, PSY.D shares her unique story of the loss of her second child, and how she combined her clinical knowledge and experience with her parenting intuition to see her family through and…
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Send Jen a Text Message We just finished a season of celebrating my son's joyful wedding one moment and then, in the blink of an eye, faced with the sorrow of my mother's health battles and eventual passing. It's within these contrasting experiences that this episode was born, sharing with you the raw and honest reflections on grief's profound impa…
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Send Jen a Text Message Emotions were running high as I watched my son say "I do" and embark on his own life journey. This significant event sparked a whirlwind of emotions and personal growth, which I can't wait to share with you. From experiencing the immense joy of my son's wedding, to confronting the heartache of personal loss, I've learned to …
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Send Jen a Text Message What if you found strength in the face of multiple miscarriages, a divorce, and the lengthy path to adoption? Our guest for this episode, Anna Maria de Dio, did just that. She takes us through her decade-long journey navigating the ups and downs of life, a testament to her resilience and determination. Not only did Anna Mari…
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Send Jen a Text Message Can you imagine experiencing an unimaginable loss and finding a way to turn it into a journey of self-discovery and wellness? Our guest, Erin Tennant, a certified health and wellness coach, takes us along on her life-altering journey. Erin experienced the heartbreaking loss of her son, Max, at seven months gestation. Instead…
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Send Jen a Text Message Welcome to an intimate episode of Navigating Baby Loss, where we unravel the challenging emotion of jealousy following the loss of a baby. I'm Jennifer Senn, your host and a grief coach by profession, and also a bereaved mom of stillborn twins. Together, we'll face this tricky emotion head-on, acknowledging that it is a norm…
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Send Jen a Text Message What happens when the unimaginable takes place and heartache becomes your constant companion? Brave mom, Katie Bordelon, boldly shares her story of losing her twins, Scarlet and Jackson, just 19 weeks into pregnancy due to an infection. Katie details this traumatic experience – from the shocking premature birth to the afterm…
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Send Jen a Text Message What if your body and mind hold the power to overcome seemingly insurmountable fertility challenges? Our guest, Juliet Owen Nuttall, a former firefighter and a mother at 45, defied the odds and has a story that brings forth the magic of resilience and the power of positive thinking. After a grim fertility diagnosis, she used…
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Send Jen a Text Message Ever felt trapped in your own body? The struggle with PCOS often feels just like that. I sat down with Kendra Alexander, an integrative health and hormone coach, and she opened up about her battle with PCOS. Kendra talks candidly about her diagnosis, the lifestyle changes she made to manage it, and her journey to motherhood.…
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Send Jen a Text Message Have you ever felt the searing pain of losing a child? I have. And so has my guest today, Suzanne Jabour, a grief educator and coach who tragically lost her 22-year-old son, Ben. As parents, we know that the death of a child defies the natural order of life, leaving us grappling with a unique type of sorrow. We explore the p…
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Send Jen a Text Message What if writing could help heal the painful wounds of losing a child? Join me as I sit down with Carmen Grover, a courageous mother and author, who shares her heart-wrenching journey of experiencing 10 pregnancies, with only three children here on Earth and seven in Heaven. Carmen's powerful story unfolds in her book, A Lett…
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Send Jen a Text Message Have you ever wondered how to effectively navigate conflict in your relationship, especially after experiencing the unimaginable loss of a baby? Join me as I sit down with life and relationship coach Sharon Costanzo, who has not only weathered this storm in her own marriage but has made it her mission to help others do the s…
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Send Jen a Text Message Have you ever wondered how holistic practices like yoga, ayurvedic techniques, and reiki could help you in your journey toward fertility? Join us in this heartfelt conversation with Ashley Holmes, a yoga instructor, reiki practitioner, and the owner of Yoga for Fertility, as she shares her personal struggles with infertility…
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Send Jen a Text Message In this episode, I talk about some things you can do to help the father deal with grief in a healthier way after their baby loss, and some ways you can celebrate them for the upcoming Father's Day. It is important to learn their grief style especially if it is different than yours and be willing to ask questions that show th…
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Send Jen a Text Message Meredith MacKenzie is a Registered Clinical Counsellor and Intuitive Eating Coach. Her journey through eating disorder recovery to becoming a binge-eating therapist led her to create a caring and respectful relationship with her body. All this was put to the test during her experience with infertility and miscarriage. Meredi…
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Send Jen a Text Message Sharna Southan is a loss mama who while looking for her own resources for healing, found that others were looking for the same thing. She is the creator of the Institute of Healing Through Pregnancy Loss, which is the home of the Pregnancy Loss Practitioner Program. She teaches women tools that helped her heal from her own g…
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Send Jen a Text Message This episode gives you practical advice on strategies you can use to cope with the messages and invitations to celebrate Mother's Day. Mother's Day can be especially hard when you are dealing with the loss of your baby. In this episode, I talk about: setting boundaries creating self-care rituals that feel good to you saying …
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Send Jen a Text Message Dr. Shona Johnston is a pediatrician, qualified coach, and bereaved mum. She uses her experiences following the death of her baby Gail to make a difference to others through teaching about and making improvements to child bereavement care, and through coaching overwhelmed healthcare professionals to find self-compassion, joy…
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Send Jen a Text Message Maureen Farrell is a lactation counselor, doula, herbalist, and homebirth midwife practicing in rural West Virginia. She passionately works to improve pregnancy, birth, and postpartum experiences for families through education and holistic care. That same motivation drove her to co-found the Milk Minute Podcast in 2020, whic…
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Send Jen a Text Message Sierra Grana is a Soul Gratifying Coach, Medium, and Speaker who guides leaders, pioneers, and generational curse breakers through their darkest moments and brings them toward their light. She shares her near-death experience of her own experience with baby loss and how she took that experience and found her way through it b…
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Send Jen a Text Message Amy Figueroa is a Virtual Assistant Coach and a Professional Copywriter. After losing her newborn daughter to Trisomy 13, Amy embarked on a journey to find work/life balance and career satisfaction which led to launching her own online business and allowed her to channel her grief into something positive, as well as be more …
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Send Jen a Text Message Heather Gilbert shares the story of the stillbirth loss of her first child just 2 weeks before his due date. She tells how she tried to convince herself that she was healed and moving on and meanwhile her grief was eroding her marriage, career, parenting, and health. She shares the symptoms of the unprocessed grief she suffe…
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Send Jen a Text Message Amy Watson gives great advice on how to talk to children who are confused about what happened to the baby and how to say things that help them deal with reality without scaring them. She shares the story of her own stillborn baby as well as a late miscarriage and how she had to tell her older children and walk with them thro…
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Send Jen a Text Message Debra Kilby is an energy healer, channel, spirit baby medium, and author of Rosa’s Choice: Healing the wounds of the mother. She had a challenging journey to motherhood herself and suffered several miscarriages as well as a TFMR loss of her daughter Rosa. She tells us about how she realized she was a spirit baby medium on a …
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Send Jen a Text Message Karista Marcinek is a Sydney-based creative consultant, culture curator, and change maker. After suffering a miscarriage at 18 weeks gestation during Covid where she realized she was pregnant as she was miscarrying, she returned to work in an environment that was insensitive to what she had experienced. and realized there we…
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Send Jen a Text Message Dr. Heather Browne is a psychotherapist who specializes in relationship and couples therapy and is an expert at helping others find the other side to their most challenging situations. She talks about the losses of those closest to her and what she learned going through those experiences. She has been published in many outle…
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Send Jen a Text Message Dr. Diane Speier is a perinatal psychotherapist who is the author of Life After Birth: A Parent’s Holistic Guide for Thriving in the Fourth Trimester. She talks about the physical things your body experiences in the fourth trimester and how we can enable better healing in that time period. She is also a celebrant and gives u…
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Send Jen a Text Message I'm in the process of creating a new quiz to help loss parents get the information they need at the exact time they need it. While I was putting together the information and creating the different paths that a stillbirth parent might be on it occurred to me that there were many stages you go through as you are healing. In fa…
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Send Jen a Text Message Episode 33: Kyira Wackett MS,LPC -The Shame Therapist Shares Why We Feel Shame and What To Do About It Kyria Wackett is a wife, mom, and self-proclaimed shame therapist. She is the Founder of Adversity rising and as a licensed mental health therapist she specializes in anxiety and shame and helping women address these issues…
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Send Jen a Text Message Episode 32: Sarah Jane Smith-Embodied Possibility- Reconnecting With and Loving Your Body Again After Loss Sarah Jane Smith from Embodied Possibility tells how her story of how the multiple pregnancy losses she suffered led her to live a life childless not by choice and sparked her journey of reconnecting and forgiving her b…
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Send Jen a Text Message Episode 31: Clara Capano- Living life with Clara-ty with less guilt and overwhelm Clara Capano is a podcast Host, and bestselling author- her third book will be released in May, she is an international speaker and has been featured on major news networks. She is recognized as one of the 100 most Powerful women and is a write…
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Send Jen a Text Message Episode 30: Author Crystal Webster of Sharing Solace Tells Madelyn's Story and How She Created Unique Sharable Items to Help Grievers Crystal Webster is the (co)founder of Sharing Solace, author of ‘Confessions of a Griever’, creator of the ‘Feel Your &*@#% Feels’ Experience, speaker, mentor, entrepreneur, and most important…
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Send Jen a Text Message Episode 29: Shannon MacFarlane's Incredible Story of Chronicling Loss Through Photography and How to Find Healing Through a Camera Lens. Have you wondered if taking photos of your baby after they have passed causes more pain or is helpful? My guest today, Shannon MacFarlane tells us her incredible story about how she chronic…
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Send Jen a Text Message Episode 28: Jen Burgard- Henry's Story and How She Built a Foundation that Provides Others With Healing Gifts and Resources This is the ultimate story of how one person who was trying to find healing in her own grief, snowballed her efforts and turned them into a way that built community, resources, and healing gifts for oth…
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This episode handles the subject of baby loss. On the last episode of the series, we share our guests’ hopes for the future, and Caroline and Jen reflect on their hopes, too. From opening up the conversation, and helping families grow around their grief, to building on an open, learning culture, and saving babies’ lives, there are so many hopes sha…
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Send Jen a Text Message In this episode Patty Cuevas tells her own pregnancy loss story and how it left her questioning her own faith as a Christian woman. We talk about jealousy, family, and things she wishes she had done differently after her loss. She is a Family and Marriage therapist who coaches women who are dealing with a significant life ch…
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his episode handles the subject of baby loss, bereavement, and grief. On this week’s episode, we hear about the importance of good bereavement care, the support healthcare professionals need from organisations like Sands, and the difference this all makes to bereaved families in caring for them. Our first guest is Marc Harder, Head of Bereavement C…
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Send Jen a Text Message In this episode we talk about how having a grief guide can provide a safe place for you to work out your feelings and learn techniques and practices that will help you get unstuck in a gentle, easy way that feels good to your body. Annie describes how to create your own sound bath experience and the benefits of controlling y…
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This episode shares stories of grief from a bereaved parent and handles the subject of baby loss, bereavement, and grief. On this week’s podcast, Jen and Caroline discuss the importance of creating space for parents’ voices to be heard and how we can create a just culture. The first guest in this episode is Clea Harmer, CEO of Sands. She talks to t…
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This episode shares stories from bereaved parents and handles the subject of baby loss, investigation and learning .  This week we focus on how understanding why their baby has died is so important to parents. This can happen through a hospital review of their care to understand events leading up to their baby’s death. We focus particularly on how …
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Send Jen a Text Message Dr. Carolina M. Sueldo is a Double Board Certified Fertility Specialist currently practicing in her hometown of Fresno, California. She completed her residency training at UCSF-Fresno, and her fellowship in Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility (REI) at the University of Connecticut. Dr. Sueldo has been a speaker at Nat…
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This episode shares stories from bereaved parents and handles the subject of baby loss, bereavement and grief. This week focuses in on men’s mental health. Jen and Caroline speak to Dr David Hall, who lost his son Rory 26 years ago and is a consultant psychiatrist. David shares very openly about his experience of losing Rory, and how it has impacte…
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