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Blending the transformative lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy with the evolving landscape of wellness, Natalie offers intimate reflections and thought-provoking interviews designed to help us listen within. Whether you're a seasoned practitioner or newly IFS-curious, each episode gently reminds us: no part is too small, too loud, or too strange to be welcomed home.
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What happens when the healing world of Internal Family Systems meets the imaginative art of puppetry? In this episode, I sit down with Mark Saltzman, LMP — a self-proclaimed puppet nerd, bodyworker, grief educator, and IFS practitioner — to explore how puppets can bring our inner parts to life in the therapy room and beyond. Mark and I chat about t…
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Fresh from the 2025 IFS Conference and in celebration of the podcast's 100th episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow IFS enthusiast, Tammy Sollenberger, for a lively and heartfelt debrief. In true synchronicity, we somehow kept signing up for the same seminars—without ever comparing notes beforehand. We talk about our parts, our paths, and ma…
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In this episode, I sit down with one of my IFS mentors Chris Burris, LMFT, Senior Lead Trainer for the Internal Family Systems (IFS) Institute, to explore one of the most challenging and misunderstood aspects of our inner world: the inner critic. Chris shares his personal journey with IFS and how the model offers a radical permission to approach ou…
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My guest today is Jenny Hayo (she/her)—teacher, guide, and practitioner of wisdom traditions for over 25 years—to explore the living, breathing experience of Self-energy and how it shapes our inner and outer worlds. Together, we dive into: What it means to embody Self-energy instead of holding it as just an idea. The many ways people describe Self-…
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In this episode I sit down with Heather Smith—Certified IFS therapist and founder of The Moxie School®—to explore the profound intersection of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and psychedelic-assisted healing. Heather shares her deeply personal path into both IFS and psychedelics, sparked by a lifelong inquiry: How do people truly heal? Togeth…
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What happens when Internal Family Systems meets the mystical? In this episode I’m joined once again by therapist, teacher, and spiritual guide Chris Hancock to explore Transpersonal Internal Family Systems (T-IFS)—a sacred weaving of parts work with direct connection to the Divine. Together, we explore how T-IFS opens portals to higher realms of he…
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What if our inner parts weren’t just fragments of the psyche—but vessels designed to receive divine love? My guests today are Chelsea Odhner, Robert Falconer, and Jonathan S. Rose—co-authors of the new book Opening the Inner World: Spiritual Healing, Internal Family Systems, and Emanuel Swedenborg. Together, we explore the playful spirit that broug…
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What if your insomnia isn't a problem to fix, but a part of you that needs your attention? In this insightful and compassionate conversation, I’m joined by somatic IFS and leadership coach Katie LaCelle to explore the deep connection between sleeplessness and our inner system. Katie shares her personal journey with chronic insomnia and how Internal…
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What happens when a couple says “yes” to deep healing together—guided by MDMA-assisted psychotherapy and parts work? In this soulful and honest conversation, I’m joined by Steph and Craig, co-hosts of The Steph & Craig Show, to explore their transformative journeys with MDMA-assisted therapy through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Togeth…
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In this deeply personal episode, I sit down with my brother, Sam Deering, to explore the layered journey of identity—how it forms, evolves, fractures, and heals over a lifetime. Sam shares openly about his search for belonging through many identities. We dive into big questions like Who am I? and Where do I belong?, weaving in the lens of Internal …
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What happens when you’ve had two open-heart surgeries before the age of 40, and you’re still fighting the healthcare system—every single day? In this powerful and deeply human conversation, I’m joined by Dr. Jacob Kendall, healthcare advocate and metagerontologist, to talk about what it means to advocate like hell—for yourself, your loved ones, and…
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What if your birth chart could help you find the parts of you longing to be witnessed? What if the stars weren’t about prediction—but about reflection? In this rich and expansive conversation, I’m joined by Sarah Temel, licensed trauma therapist, IFS practitioner, and founder of No Bad Charts, to explore the deeply supportive intersection of Intern…
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Longing and heartache—two deeply human experiences that touch us all. In this conversation with Susan Poznyansky, LICSW (they/them), founder of Heart of Caldera (HOC), we explore the tender terrain of what it means to long, ache, and hold space for the parts of us that carry these emotions. Susan and I share a love for lakes—their stillness, their …
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What if the key to clarity, aliveness, and deep relaxation was already within your body—waiting to be awakened? In this episode, I sit down with my long-time mentor and friend, Jessica Lichaa, a fascia and nervous system specialist, to explore the profound connection between fascia, stored energy, and nervous system regulation. We dive into the bod…
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What if creativity could become one of your most powerful tools for self-discovery and healing? In this episode, I sit down with Lynn Motley, a licensed mental health therapist and Internal Family Systems (IFS) practitioner, to explore the powerful intersection of Soul Collage® and parts work. We dive into how Soul Collage® serves as a creative and…
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Do you find yourself constantly striving, doing, and achieving—only to feel exhausted, unfulfilled, or out of alignment? In this deeply relatable and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with therapist and life coach Allyson Blythe to explore the "Accomplisher" part within us—a part I personally relate to and deeply share in. Together, we unpack t…
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In this powerful and enlightening episode, I sit down with Natalie Hoffman, author of All the Scary Little Gods, to discuss her journey of deconstructing from emotional and spiritual abuse, and helping others do the same. We explore the deep work of deprogramming from rigid belief systems and aligning your faith with your core values. Natalie Hoffm…
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In this heartfelt and thought-provoking episode, I sit down with my longtime friend Christina Jelesky to discuss our journeys of becoming sober curious. From wild college nights to the reflective moments in our 20s and 30s, we explore the evolution of our relationship with drinking and the profound impact it has had on our lives. Together, we delve…
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In this special episode, Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing, leads a calming and transformative guided meditation designed to help you connect with your intuition for deep healing. Tammy invites you to tap into your inner wisdom, quiet the mind, and align with your True Self. Whether you're new to intuitive practices or looking to deepen y…
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In this illuminating episode, I'm joined by Tammy Waldron, founder of Towanda Wellbeing and a seasoned Advanced ThetaHealing® Teacher and Practitioner, to explore the transformative power of intuition in healing. Tammy shares her profound insights on connecting to Source energy (Self/Higher Self energy) and how intuitive abilities—often expressed t…
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In this episode, Natalie sits with friend of the pod, Nicki Slattery, to discuss astrology and how it impacts our relationships. Topics Discussed: 1. How astrology can help you and your relationships (romantic and family) 2. The history of astrology and the impact of gravity 3. What is a sun sign and moon sign 4. Synastry chart vs. Composite chart …
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In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS therapist, author, and meditation teacher Ralph De La Rosa to discuss his new book, Outshining Trauma: A New Vision of Radical Self-Compassion. Topics Discussed: 1. Blending meditation and IFS 2. True mindfulness; not looking at thoughts as the enemy 3. Buddhism meditation and IFS 4. Discussion of the book's t…
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In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS practitioner, author, and ultra runner Lauren Callahan as they dive into her new book, Couch to 50 Miles: The Story of a Girl, a Trail, and a Relentless Need to Always Run. Topics Discussed: 1. Running as a mirror for life, and parts. 2. The ultra running experience and its connection to Self energy 3. Strivin…
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New virtual workshop series for self discovery using IFS and Human Design, - Starts Friday October 25th 11am-1pm EST ______________________________________ In this episode, Natalie sits with sound healing expert Sonya Verma. Topics Discussed: 1. Sonya's decision to leave medical school 2. Sonya's near death experience and the impacts it had 3. What…
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In this episode, Natalie sits with IFS practitioner and author Sara Avant Stover to discuss her new book, Handbook for the Heartbroken. Topics Discussed: 1. Heartbreak is a basic part of the human experience 2. The judgmental culture towards heartbreak 3. Grief as a medicine 4. How to be there for someone who is experiencing heartbreak 5. The three…
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In this episode, Natalie sits with Shelby Pressley to discuss narcissism in the workplace and the impacts it has on our mental health. Topics Discussed: 1. Checking yourself for narcissistic tendencies/parts 2. What does narcissism look like in the workplace? 3. What is indirect bullying in the workplace? 4. Impacts of workplace narcissism 5. Ways …
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In this episode, Natalie sits with Martina Williams and Kyle Wehrend to discuss their expertise on highly sensitive people (HSP) and IFS. Topics Discussed: 1. What is a HSP? 2. D.O.E.S.; an acronym for HSP characteristics 3. Environmental sensitivity: Is it nature, nurture, or both? 4. Challenges of being a HSP 5. Benefits of being a HSP 6. Protect…
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In this episode Natalie is joined by certified IFS therapist Justin Martin as they discuss the role humor can play in both our professional and personal lives, and how it can help us connect with parts. ____________________________ Topics Discussed: 1. Humor as a form of connection to ourselves and others 2. Humor as a pathway to parts and Self ene…
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In this episode Natalie is joined by certified IFS practitioner Valerie Louis PhD as they discuss spirituality and how we can resource beyond Self to access compassion for ourselves and others. ____________________________ Topics Discussed: 1. Being in companionship with your parts 2. What is spirituality 3. Valerie's spiritual journey 4. Connectin…
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In this episode Natalie is joined by IFS therapist Theresa Soltzberg as they discuss the healing benefits of using creative expressive arts to connect with parts and process trauma. _____________________________ Topics Discussed: 1. What is expressive arts 2. Benefits of expressive arts and connecting to parts and healing trauma 3. How to do expres…
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Today's episode is brought to you by Multiplicity of the Mind Learning Center, dedicated to advancing psychotherapy through IFS. Check out their upcoming workshop "Foundations of Becoming an IFS-Informed Therapist" on July 26th and September 20th (CEU's available). Register for this workshop and more at https://multiplicityofthemind.com/workshops/ …
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Support the podcast by donating! Funds go towards keeping wellness content available and accessible for all. Thank you for your support! _____________________________________________________________ Natalie sits with friend and fellow IFS therapist, Melissa Johnson, as they discuss mold and its impacts on physical and mental health. Melissa shares …
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Do you feel curious about your attachment style and how it impacts your relationships? Natalie sits with licensed therapist and author Annie Chen to discuss her book, The Attachment Theory Workbook. Natalie and Annie dive into the topics of anxious attachment, avoidant attachment, and secure attachment and how one can utilize their attachment style…
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Natalie sits with the pioneer of somatic IFS, Susan McConnell, to discuss her five practices of somatic IFS that can be found in her popular book, Somatic Internal Family Systems Therapy: Awareness, Breath, Resonance, Movement, and Touch in Practice. Topics Discussed: 1. Susan shares her experiences of being a part of IFS development 2. The fragmen…
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Natalie sits with human design expert Dr. Nicole Garritano. They discuss how we can utilize our genetic blueprint to best understand ourselves with compassion and to know how our conditioning has impacted our ability to be connected to our authentic Self. Topics Discussed: 1. What is human design? 2. How our conditioning impacts our parts 3. What i…
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Join Natalie as she talks with Dr. Christine Kiesinger, certified Usui and Karuna Reiki Master Teacher, as they discuss the power of Reiki and how it relates to Self-energy, parts, and IFS. Topics Discussed: 1. What is Reiki 2. Energetic blocks to receiving Reiki, and how are parts are involved 3. Becoming attuned to receive Reiki 4. Benefits of Re…
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Natalie interviews the "unwilling rebel of IFS" Joanne Twombly on her book, Trauma and Dissociation Informed Internal Family Systems: How to Successfully Treat Complex PTSD and Dissociative Disorders. Topics Discussed Include: 1. The controversy with traditional IFS and coping skills 2. What is DID and Complex PTSD 3. Trauma and dissociative inform…
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In this re-released episode, Natalie interviews Kaitlyn Mariah on her expertise on the lymphatic system and how it impacts our health. Topics discussed include, what is the lymphatic system, why is it important for mental and physical health, and how can we invite lymphatic drainage and its benefits on our own. Kaitlyn is a licensed medical massage…
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In this episode, three time zones come together as Natalie (located in the USA) sits with Helen Foot (located in New Zealand) and Emma Redfern (located in the UK) to discuss their book, Freeing Self: IFS Beyond the Therapy Room. Topics Discussed: 1. Both Emma and Helen share their journey to IFS and their shared experience with manager collapse 2. …
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In today's episode, Natalie sits with firefighter, paramedic, and podcast host, Jalon Johnson, as they discuss vulnerability and healing through IFS. Topics Discussed: 1. How vulnerability is a super power 2. Protector parts and vulnerability 3. Impacts of family, cultural, and racial trauma 4. Jalon shares about his experience starting therapy 5. …
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In today's episode, Natalie sits with certified IFS therapist, author, and podcaster, Tammy Sollenberger, as they discuss the impact of centering prayer and how it can invite connection to our authentic Self. Topics Discussed: 1. Tammy gets personal and shares about her background in religion and spirituality, how it lead to getting her masters at …
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Today's episode is a cool one! Natalie sits with Sasha Lipskaia to discuss witch wounds and how they impact us in the present, from an internal family systems (IFS) perspective. Topics Discussed: 1. Sasha's journey to her many healing specialities 2. What are witch wounds? 3. Past lives and witch wounds 4. Impacts of witch wounds in the present 5. …
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In this episode Natalie talks with Dr. Martha Sweezy, author of the book "Internal Family Systems Therapy for Shame and Guilt". Topics Discussed Include: 1. Martha's journey to IFS: The missing piece to the paradigm 2. What is guilt 3. Maladaptive vs. Adaptive guilt 4. Survivor guilt, separation guilt, mom guilt, anticipatory guilt 5. What is shame…
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In today's episode I am joined by licensed clinical social worker Chris Hancock as we discuss his gift of clairsentience and how he utilizes this gift to work with clients using MDLT and IFS. Topics Discussed Include: 1. Chris shares his experience with depression and burn out 2. His ask for clarity amidst his dark night(s) of the soul and how that…
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In today’s episode I am joined by clinician, author, and nervous system expert, Deb Dana as she talks about Polyvagal Theory and befriending the nervous system. Topics Include: 1. Deb's journey to Polyvagal Theory and Stephen Porges 2. How the stuckness leads to suffering 3. Your state creates your story 4. Power of curiosity to shift into ventral …
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In today's episode I am joined by IFS practitioner, teacher, and author Robert Falconer as we discuss in depth his passion for guides and past lives. Topics Discussed Include: 1. Bob Announces his new book, "When You're Going Through Hell, Keep Going" 2. What is porous mind vs. citadel mind 3. Connecting with guides with the constraint release mode…
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Sit back and relax as Bob Falconer guides you through a meditation to bring awareness to Self-energy, guides, unattached burdens, and parts. Bob suggests that after you engage in this meditation to draw an outline of your body on a sheet of paper, and to draw (with colors preferably) whatever you saw or sensed during the meditation in, on, and arou…
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In today's episode I am joined by certified IFS practitioner, Seth Kopald, as we discuss how to be Self-led from his new book Self-Led: Living a Connected Life With Yourself and With Others. Topics Discussed: 1. Seth's journey to IFS and how it helped going through a divorce and experiencing anxiety 2. Seth's intention for the book 3. What it means…
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In today's episode I am joined by certified IFS therapist and consultant Dave Adamusko as we discuss the power of direct access within IFS therapy. Direct Access Workshop Link: https://multiplicityofthemind.com/direct-access/ Topics Covered Include: 1. Dave's journey to IFS and psychodrama 2. What is direct access 3. What is implicit direct access …
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