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On this episode, Lee dives headfirst into distant history to try to put together the puzzle of the Knights Templar. Did they really disappear, or did they take their great wealth and go underground to try to manipulate the world's events from behind the scenes?For more information on the Knights Templar, check out Helen J Nichols' "The Knights Temp…
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On this "Junk Drawer" episode, Lee and Nathan talk about a mob hit from the 1960s that's even shadier and more disturbing than you might think, a scheme to kidnap people and force them to try to scam you over the phone, and the strange story of the brilliant author Philip K. Dick, who maybe tipped a little too far into suspicion and landed in the w…
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In October of 2023, a rumour started to spread on social media that a signal was going to be broadcast over everyone's cell phones that would activate a virus or a microchip in the vaccinated population that would turn them all into... zombies. Did this happen? No. But like all media-driven panics we can still learn something from it...…
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Disinformation is widespread in our current media ecosystem, and even if we don't fall for it it can still be hazardous to our health. To find out why this is the case, Lee and Nathan talk to Evan Thornburg: bioethicist, expert in disinformation and public health, and TikTok-facing intellectual.You can find Evan's work on TikTok at "EVN the (Bio) E…
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Lee and Nathan examine the season 3 episode "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" of the classic conspiracy TV show "The X-Files", and use the show to springboard off into a conversation about truth, aliens, hypnosis, abductions, hoaxes, government cover-ups, gorilla suits, and flying saucers. We recommend watching the X-Files episode before listening to…
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What if there was a secret conspiracy to conceal the fact that the American government was making deals with aliens to allow them to abduct people for genetic research? And what if that conspiracy was nothing but a smoke screen to cover up the real conspiracy of a secret cabal working to depopulate the world? This is the story of Bill Cooper, and h…
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In summer of 2023, a former intelligence official named David Grusch testified under oath in a Congressional hearing. In his testimony, he claimed that the American government has recovered crashed extraterrestrial craft, and even has some alien bodies in the freezer. What are we to make of these claims? Lee and Nathan dive into the murky waters to…
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In July 0f 2023, there was a Congressional hearing on UAPs (aka UFOs). Two of the witnesses were Navy pilots who had first-hand encounters with flying objects. Is this the moment we've been waiting for? Is the American government finally taking UFOs seriously? Nathan and Lee examine the testimony and the footage, and look back at the troubling hist…
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We hear dozens of conspiracy theories every week - a few have some truth to them, some are accidental nonsense, and some are deliberate and dangerous lies. How can we sort through all of them? On this episode, Lee and Nathan talk about some of the red flags that they encounter on the regular that make them suspicious that a conspiracy theory might …
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Soviet cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin was the first person to escape the Earth's atmosphere into space. In 1968, he was killed in a tragic and suspicious plane crash. Why would the Soviet government have wanted Gagarin dead? And were they somehow responsible for the crash? Lee and Nathan also discuss the tragic Soyuz 1 incident, in case listeners weren't a…
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In 1961, the USSR placed a man named Yuri Gagarin into a tiny capsule on the tip of a massive rocket and shot him into space. This is the story of that moment, and Lee spends the episode teetering back and forth between being inspired by the humanity of the story and being discouraged by the systems and structures the humans are stuck in.For more i…
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In 1983, the entire world was on the brink of disaster. The slightest mistake or miscalculation could have resulted in a nuclear armageddon that would have wiped entire countries off the map. And in the middle of all of that, some ominous blips showed up on an early warning system. Were we all killed? Listen to find out...…
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Many claims are made about the advanced technology developed by Germany during WWII. Is any of it accurate? Nathan and Lee go back to the 1940s to look at some of the so-called "Wunderwaffen", and Lee has to spend another episode listening to Nathan talk about airplanes. Then, near the end of the episode, there's an alarming revelation about pumpki…
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On this episode, Lee and Nathan open up the junk drawer and pull out segments on an urban legend about Phil Collins* from the 1980s, a recent example of the use of hiphop tracks for state propaganda, and the evil dangers that lurk in Lee's childhood toys.* not the drummer from The PoliceBởi Kuhnle, Papayanis, Radke
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To Lee's dismay, Nathan has managed to trick him into doing an entire episode about Cold War aircraft. However, the story turns out to be much stranger and more interesting than Lee was expecting, as it features honeypot spies, top secret Air Force programs, bizarre nuclear projects, and at least one person gets thrown off a train.…
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In the 1970s, ranchers in multiple states found some of their cows dead on the ground, seemingly drained of blood and with strange surgical incisions on the bodies. Who was doing this, and why? Nathan and Lee investigate, come up with a reasonable explanation, and then stumble across a wildly unreasonable truth...…
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We think things are pretty dicey politically these days, but how dicey did they used to be? On this episode Lee argues that it was quite dicey indeed in the 1700s, when the British were plotting to assassinate George Washington. Were they successful? Obviously no. But there are lessons to be learned from the story...…
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What happened to Betty and Barney Hill in the two missing hours between when they left Montreal and when they arrived at home? The story of the Hills is one of the all-time UFO encounter classics, and there are some extremely important lessons to be learned from it. Also, it's interesting.Bởi Kuhnle, Papayanis, Radke
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In the 1950s, lots of people came forward claiming that they had met with aliens, and that those aliens had an important message for us Earthlings. On this episode, Lee and Nathan look at three examples of alleged alien contactees to try to figure out what it all means (hint: it's something to do with nuclear annihilation).…
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How did this happen? 100 episodes of The Uncover Up!?! To get to the bottom of this, Lee and Nathan investigate their own origin stories - young Lee as a seeker looking for spiritual meaning, and young Nathan lost and aimless in an absurd world without any meaning. Also, Nathan gets a tattoo, and a nuclear physicist pops in to say hello.…
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Is it possible that our entire existence is nothing more than someone else's sandbox-style video game? On this episode, Lee and Nathan get into quantum physics, epistemology, metaphysics, ontology and ethics to try to get to the bottom of that question. Also, Nathan reminisces about playing Ultima IV on a Commodore 64 in the 1980s.…
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On this episode, Lee, Nathan and special guest pod person Dr. Shelly Lesher dive deep into the nature of existence to look into the possibility that the Pentagon has been working on a gamma ray weapon that would fit in the palm of your hand, but destroy a city block. In order to help make the science make sense, they start with a 10 minute primer o…
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If television and movies have taught us anything, it's that good guys won't break under torture, and bad guys confess the truth under torture. As it turns out, television and movies may have steered us wrong on both counts. Continuing their examination of the Witch Hunt disaster, Lee and Nathan discuss how in order to protect an absurd belief, you …
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On this "Junk Drawer" episode, Lee and Nathan look at some odd little stories that were interesting enough to discuss, but not big enough for their own episodes. On this edition, Nathan discusses the world's first mass media panic, Lee examines a time there was a conspiracy that almost an entire country was in on, and then Nathan looks at a UFO sig…
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On this episode, Lee and Nathan look at how the idea of the "witch" started to form in Europe in the 15th century. In particular, they look at one of the most influential books on how to identify, interrogate, prosecute and punish people accused of witchcraft - the Malleus Maleficarum, or the "Hammer of Witches". Humans are dangerous when they're f…
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On this episode, Lee, Nathan and special guest pod person Dr. Shelly Lesher (from the "My Nuclear Life" podcast) discuss the possibility that microwaves could be weaponized into a mind control apparatus that could cause you to hear voices inside your head. Also, there's some discussion of irradiating monkeys, but no monkeys were harmed in the makin…
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