Will California rethink density because of COVID-19, with Conor Dougherty

Gimme Shelter: The California Housing Crisis Podcast

Is density to blame for New York's coronavirus outbreak? And if so, should California rethink its push for building more apartments in major cities? On this episode of Gimme Shelter, Matt and Liam discuss the new public health dimensions of California's density debate. First, an Avocado of the Fortnite takes us to an echo chamber inside Matt's living room (3:00). Then a discussion of NIMBY pushback to housing the homeless in hotels (7:00), followed by hot takes on whether the drive for urban density will be sunk by COVID-19 (16:00). Then an interview with Conor Dougherty, New York Times reporter and author of the new book "Golden Gates: Fighting for Housing in America."