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Ex-England rugby captain Dylan Hartley joins James to talk about leadership, the 'power of words', what makes a great captain and dubious player hygiene.
Dylan's book, The Hurt, is out now in all good bookshops. Follow Dylan on Instagram or Twitter @dylanhartley.
You can also order James' book What A Flanker in hardback, audiobook and ebook.
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