101. Gratitude, Grief, and Guilt: The Church After Covid, with Scott Cormode and Alexia Salvatierra

Spiritual Life and Leadership

This episode is part one of a four-part series titled, "The Church After Covid. In this episode, we are speaking with Fuller Seminary professors Scott Cormode and Alexia Salvatierra. They will help us see the importance of expressing gratitude, moving through grief, and even acknowledging feelings of guilt, as we move into a post-pandemic world.
THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:

• Scott Cormode is the Hugh De Pree Professor of Leadership Development at Fuller Theological Seminary and has recently written book titled The Innovative Church.
• Alexia Salvatierra is the Assistant Professor of Integral Mission and Global Transformation at Fuller Seminary. Alexia also works with a network of immigrant and non-immigrant churches who advocate for immigrant families facing detention and deportation.
• Alexia Salvatierra works primarily with Spanish-speaking churches and second generation multi-cultural churches.
• Scott Cormode does a lot of work with the Fuller Youth Institute.
• The biggest thing we’ve learned from this past year of Covid is that no one knows what is around the corner.
• Preparation makes you agile.
• In Spanish-speaking churches, the experience of Covid pushed them up against their lack of access to technology. But it also opened new opportunities for community and leadership.
• In Spanish-speaking communities, Covid has been much more of a plague than in white communities.
• As we move away from our Covid reality, we need to engage in both grief and gratitude.
• Guilt is also an emotion that many will experience after the pandemic—survivor guilt.
• Alexia shares how some documented families helped care for undocumented families.
• Leadership begins with listening.
• We need to listen with empathy because over this past year everyone has had their own experience.
• The Gospel is God’s response to the human condition.
• If you don’t listen, you can’t see what God is doing.
• Alexia and Scott share how they have been formed spiritually through this year of pandemic.

RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:

• Books mentioned:
  • The Innovative Church, by Scott Cormode
  • The Wounded Healer, by Henri Nouwen
• Church Leadership Institute:
  • www.depree.org/church
  • Text CHANGE to 66866
• CLI Course
  • From Surviving to Thriving: Leading Your Church Into a Post Pandemic World

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