Gradually gradually typing Elixir (Friends)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

Our old friend José Valim & his team have been hard at work adding gradual typing to Elixir. They’re only 1-3% of the way there, but a lot of progress has been made. So, we invited him back on the show for a deep-dive on why, how & when Elixir will be gradually typed.

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Featuring:

• José Valim – Website, GitHub, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• José’s previous appearances
• José’s viral tweet
• Dialyzer
• Hare aims to be a 100 year language

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Chương

1. Let's talk! (00:00:00)

2. José's 7th appearance (00:00:38)

https://changelog.com/person/josevalim

3. José's viral types tweet (00:03:12)

https://twitter.com/josevalim/status/1744395345872683471

4. Working in public (00:09:23)

5. Sponsor: Vercel (00:13:49)

https://vercel.com/changelogpod

6. Why this direction? (00:17:16)

7. The knife & the cheese (00:23:01)

8. Dialyzer (00:33:17)

https://www.erlang.org/doc/man/dialyzer.html

9. Sponsor: Read Write Own (00:39:36)

https://readwriteown.com/?utm_source=changelog&utm_medium=practicalai&utm_campaign=changelog

10. José tells us a story (00:40:57)

11. The poor soul with two bosses (00:46:52)

12. 13 years in... (00:50:24)

13. On long-term relevance (00:58:47)

14. Should there be an ElixirGPT? (01:05:07)

15. Evolving with AI (01:12:48)

16. Disruption theory (01:15:36)

17. Applied to Rust (01:19:10)

18. Not en exact fit (01:20:01)

19. Applied to Elixir (01:20:48)

20. Languages & civilizations (01:22:14)

21. Jerod likes Elixir (01:24:05)

22. Adam likes math (01:24:27)

23. Making GPTs good at Elixir (01:25:53)

24. The danger of AI black boxes (01:30:04)

25. José's AI fears (01:33:29)

26. End it on a "high" note? (01:37:18)

27. A little more Doom & gloom (01:37:59)

28. Looking forward to May (01:39:45)

29. Coming up next (01:40:32)