Laugh and learn w/ Susie Meister PhD & Sarah Rice MFT from MTV's The Challenge as they cover psychology, pop culture, human interest, and science, and make everything from Kardashians to quantum physics accessible to all. Listen to more podcasts like this: https://wavepodcastnetwork.com/
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807: Men Behaving Badly, Hip Hop Dance, & Art Heist
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Sarah had an unusual live comedy experience at the Demetri Martin special taping, and it took her back to her Real World days. She claims she did badly in her hip hop dance class despite being in the "top 25% of dancers." We learn about Sarah's traumatic and morbid Coachella experience, and we can't believe she's never shared this story before. We …
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806: Cold Plunge, Good Grief, & Blair Witch Project
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Susie wants Sarah to have a Costa Rican tropical getaway, and Sarah agrees, but she is also thinking of going fly fishing and doing cold plunges, so this could go downhill fast. We talk about Charles Shultz, the creator of Peanuts and Charlie Brown, and Susie had an ugly cry watching the documentary about him. We celebrate a man who has the world r…
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805: Octopus Parents, Fun Town, & Music Ban
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Sarah wants a dog and Susie thinks it's because Sarah prefers chaos. New York City is trying to curb their rat problem by giving them birth control, but we have some logistical questions. A little boy who is obsessed with octopuses (octopi?) convinced his parents to let him adopt one, but it turned out their little spineless adoptee was with child,…
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804: Totality Awesome, Goat Custody Battle, & Conjoined Twins
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We are still recovering from our reunion in Pittsburgh and Philly, and we're sharing our adventures at WrestleCon, seeing the eclipse, and having a girls road trip. Susie talks about an investigation into a little girl who raised a goat for the 4H club, begged to have its life spared from slaughter, and then someone killed it during the investigati…
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803: Open Toes, Jail Eclipse, & Liquid Gold
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Today we hear about Sarah's experience at a comedy show where she sat next to, ugh, a friendly man. Heaven help her. And Susie got to check another comedy legend off her bucket list of shows to see. Sarah tells us some good news about organ donation as some people would like to incentivize live donation with money, but some people think that's a sl…
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802: Middle Names, Beef Yogurt, & Vegan Donuts
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Susie ain't getting any younger and she wants to prepare for the footwear of her future and find out why older gals wear flats. We learn about a man who has made it his job to pick up the excrement left by dogs on a hiking trail and shame their owners. We discuss the Steve Martin documentary and his storied career as a standup comedian and an actor…
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801: New York Punching, Magical Magnet, & Nickelodeon
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Susie got injured on the high seas, but she wants everyone to know her injury was due to a rogue wave, not alcohol because she's had some mishaps lately and apparently in there's a name for this in the addiction recovery world. Sarah watched Quiet on Set, so we discuss the abuse allegations, toxic culture, and reasons it wasn't stopped. Sarah discu…
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800: Feats of Strength, Hotel Takeover, & Time Travel
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Susie watched the Nyad documentary and was inspired, but also was wondering, what makes her different from our friend in the hamster wheel who tried to cross the ocean. Not much. We discuss the woman who completed the 200 mile ultramarathon and described the mental trick she uses to do it called the "pain cave." Are these people self-centered or am…
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799: The Death of Babysitting, Prepositional Change, & Horse Dogs
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Sarah talks about the history of babysitting, how it's changed, and why it's a thing of the past. Another sinkhole opened up, and this time it swallowed a man in his bed, and now we're traumatized. Sarah is playing video games that act as amazing couples therapy. A preposition with which you end a sentence can now be a preposition you end a sentenc…
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798: Quiet on Set, Dirty Dumbledore, & Man in the Iron Lung
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We discuss the Quiet on Set docuseries recounting the toxicity of Nickelodeon productions in the 90s, the difficulties of child stardom, and why show business lends itself to exploitation. We talk about the totally normal and not suspicious death of the Boeing whistleblower who was testifying against them and why the high road might not be worth th…
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797: Crime Cover Ups, Trader Joe's Hotel, & Sweet Valley High
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The theme of today's episode is "it's not the crime, it's the cover-up,' and we're looking at you Kate Middleton. A hotel had a "chef created" room service menu, but it turns out the chef was Trader Joe. Some cities want Spring Breakers to buzz off, and we don't blame them. Sarah explains why Johnny taking all the money on the Rivals 3 Challenge ch…
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796: Over the Rainbow, Rock Hudson, & Quantum Leap
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We start with a rummage through the old mail bag with some feedback from listeners about recent episodes. Yikes. We hear why some people think Over the Rainbow was plagiarized, but others think it's similarities are a coincidence. We discuss some famous musical thefts and how all the songs have been written. We learn about the old Hollywood star, R…
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795: Lunar Lunacy, Influencer Inmate, & Evolution Ear
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We discuss Ruby Franke, a parenting influencer who was convicted of child abuse, which is a reminder to keep in mind that influencers aren't always what they seem. We learn why the recent moon landing didn't go as planned, and despite our complete lack of understanding about aeronautics, physics, and rocket science, we think we could've done better…
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794: Scandals & Scams, Octopus Murders, & Willy Wonka Experience
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Susie is suddenly interested in WWE wrestling and wants to know why they aren't clear about whether it's real or not. But the Dark Side of the Ring docuseries has her wondering if there's a NOT dark side of the sport. Sarah had a bad operatic experience, and she's wondering if the best part of the genre is the costumes. We discuss the Where is Wend…
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793: Rebecca Syndrome, Chiweenie, & Kangaroo Time
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People are suing dating apps for trapping them in a loop of doom dating instead of helping them find love. Sarah describes a newly viral phrase called Rebecca Syndrome that refers to retroactive jealousy towards your partner's exes, and she is mad that people are stigmatizing and stereotyping with its use. We discuss the ways culture has been flatt…
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792: McMillions, Vatican AI, and Blue's Clues
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Sarah was denied entry to a museum and we are fascinated by the reason. The birding community is psyched out of their mind about a bird that was thought to be extinct reappearing. Susie talks about the McMillions docuseries, which covers the McDonald's Monopoly game scandal and how the people who "won" ended up being the losers. We learn about the …
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791: Child Poets, Spontaneous Pregnancy, & Fishy Flight
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We are celebrating the stingray who became pregnant without a male partner in her tank, and decide intersex folx are pretty much superheroes. Andrew Keegan would like to set the record straight about being a cult leader, and wants us to know he's a hippie not a religious zealot. A teacher sold his students's artwork, and now the parents are taking …
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790: Guy Fieri in Space, Rat Selfies, & Lottery Fail
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Have you ever wondered what space smells like? Well, we have the answer, and it makes no sense. We hear why Guy Fieri has infiltrated the skiing world (at long last). We debate whether the lottery should pay a man for an invalid ticket and Sarah explains why she can't handle the emotional quagmire of "scratchers." We discuss the documentary They Ca…
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789: Optimism, Pigeon Spy, & Napping on the Job
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Remember when we were optimistic? Well, we do, so Sarah wanted to find out what makes some people optimistic. Susie thinks she's a realist, but that might be code for "pessimistic." But Susie and Sarah have a crazy role reversal today, and we're wondering if Sarah is becoming less emotive in her menopausal era. We learn why some countries are passi…
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788: Elmo Abuse, Apollo 13, & Guinness World Records
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Sarah is in her cranky era since she's dealing with her menopausal symptoms. Susie gives Wil Wheaton a real earful about his ridiculous rant about Larry David's recent bit on a morning show with Elmo. We mourn the loss of Sarah Rice (not our Sarah Rice, a different one). Susie shares the story of Apollo 13 including the reason their mission to the …
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787: Cupcake Kisses, Voices that Care, & Pez Outlaw
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Sarah shares some of the things she watched during her recovery and what kinds of things she found soothing (and relatable). We discuss American Nightmare, a documentary that describes the abduction of a woman that the media and law enforcement concluded was a hoax that was actually not, and how these mistakes can happen due to problems in the syst…
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786: Biscuits & Gravy, Candyland, & Moth to Flame
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Sarah makes her triumphant return to today's show, and we are so glad she's on the mend. We hear some of the details form her surgery and recovery and what she learned through it all. She describes how she feels like she's a wise old woman now and suddenly has a new food obsession. We learn what her happy place looks like and how it was inspired by…
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785: Diaper Spa, Ruby Slippers, & Chowchilla
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We have a guest co-host today and it's one of Susie's infamous "lezes"! Kelly fills in for Sarah as she heals from her surgery. We discuss the documentary Chowchilla, which is about 26 children who were abducted from a school bus and how their experience changed the way we see childhood trauma and raises questions about justice. We debate whether a…
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784: Hockey Heroines, Sarah's Closet, & Stanley Tumblers
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Sarah shares the science on puberty and the reasons people are experiencing it earlier. We hear how Billie Jean King intervened in women's hockey and helped it succeed. Sarah discusses the popularity of Stanley tumblers and how they became the "must have" items for women, but Susie reveals how despite women being the engine behind their success, a …
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783: Participation Trophies, Naming Apartments, & Gendered Hobbies
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It's Sarah's birthday month and she wants you to know about it, but not think of her as one of those 'birthday month" kind of gals. We discuss the Subject documentary, which chronicles the consequences and benefits of appearing in a documentary, and we debate whether documentary subjects should be paid or not. We learn why ESPN was caught up in a E…
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