A podcast about cults, extreme belief, and manipulation – from two hosts who’ve actually lived it. Hosted by Lola Blanc and Meagan Elizabeth. Got your own story about cults, extreme belief, or manipulation? Leave a voicemail or text us at 347-86-TRUST (347-868-7878) OR shoot us an email at Trust Me Pod @gmail.com INSTAGRAM: @TrustMePodcast @oohlalola @meaganelizabeth11 TWITTER: @TrustMeCultPod @ohlalola @baberahamhicks TIKTOK: @TrustMeCultPodcast
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The Matadoras; Break free from toxic relationships, abuse, and manipulation
Elizabeth Jane and Deana Lynn
Two unlikely friends who were married to the same man share their stories about sexual addiction, lying, cheating, financial abuse, betrayal, manipulation , narcissistic behavior, and living a double life.
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Welcome to 'Manipulation Games: Psychology & Marketing,' a podcast that delves deep into the intricate dance between the human psyche and the world of marketing. Join hosts Gene and Darren as they explore how psychological principles influence marketing strategies, and vice versa, revealing the subtle art of persuasion that shapes our decisions and behaviors. Each episode of 'Manipulation Games' will take you on a journey through fascinating topics at the intersection of psychology and marke ...
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Warren Kohl, Part 1 - Becoming a Worker in The 2x2's
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Today's guest is Warren kohl, a fifth generation member and former “worker” (or minister) in the 2x2’s, the group that Meagan grew up in. Warren shares how devout he was to the group at a very young age, having your entire life controlled, and how utter heartbreak in high school led him to celibacy and a deeper commitment to the group. Trust Me is …
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Wolves In Sheep's Clothing, Wolves In The Church
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Today, Lizzie, Deana, and special guest Tiffany dive into the topic of dating after divorce from the toxic narcissist, and whether they would choose a "Christian" to date this time around? Also discussed was the church's role in teaching & exemplifying healthy boundaries, instead of becoming a place where predators thrive and find their next victim…
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Is Marketing Like Gambling? Hedging Your Bets in Marketing
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Welcome to "Manipulation Games: Psychology and Marketing," where we peel back the layers of the marketing world to reveal the psychological strategies and data-driven insights that make it tick. Join us as we dive deep into the mechanisms behind effective advertising and how to maximize the 'aha' moments that lead to success. In this episode, we ex…
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Nadine Macaluso - Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds
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Psychologist, trauma bond expert, and author of Run Like Hell: A Therapist's Guide to Recognizing, Escaping, and Healing from Trauma Bonds, Nadine Macaluso share about her relationship with ex-husband Jordan Belfort (aka The Wolf of Wall Street) and how it led her to become a therapist with a focus on trauma bonds. They also discuss "mind mapping",…
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Was God In My Marriage Vows? The "Marriage Covenant"
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Lizzie and Deana discuss the "marriage covenant" which can be a beautiful, sacred promise between two people and God. But when is it NOT a covenant that God has ordained? Was God in it at all? Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have y…
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Tips for Supporting the Victim of Abuse
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Lizzie and Deana discuss ways to support a friend or family member who is caught in the cycle of abuse. Spiritual Bypassing is one method that is covered, as it is highly ineffective as a means of comfort, or direction. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagr…
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Zoe & Lillian, Part 2 - Troubled Teens, Midwest Academy, and Solitary Confinement
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In part two with Zoe and Lilly, survivors of Midwest Academy, one of the abusive troubled teen programs in the same organization that was spotlighted in the docuseries The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping, we dig deeper into Lily’s experience. She’ll tell us how she was in solitary confinement for two months, and how her reaction was to rebel i…
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Alien Hand Syndrome: Battle of the Brains
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In this episode of "Manipulation Games: Psychology & Marketing," hosts Darren and Gene delve into the cerebral tug-of-war that underpins our decision-making processes. The episode kicks off with a captivating discussion on the intriguing psychological phenomenon of alien hand syndrome, setting the stage for a broader exploration of how this reflect…
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Zoe & Lillian, Part 1 - The Program, Ivy Ridge and Casa by the Sea
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Survivors of the infamous WWASP schools, Zoe & Lillian, share about their experiences being forced to join Ivy Ridge, Midwest Academy, and Casa by the Sea; All schools featured in the current Netflix docudrama, The Program: Cons, Cults, and Kidnapping. Lola & Meagan dig into how these programs were marketed to parents, the dramatic ways Zoe & Lilli…
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Molested By a Church Leader; Jarron's story
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Jarron shares his story of being molested at age 15 by a trusted church youth leader, red flags look for, and his advice to not keep it a secret, as difficult as that may be. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have you join us on our …
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Moving Past Your Past & Growing Your Soul- Happy Hour #2
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Enjoy the fun but poignant episode of Happy Hour where we discuss moving past your past, your Ex, and finding the YOU that has been erased or hidden-- Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have you join us on our FB group; Women of Faith…
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Roberta Blevins, Part 2 - Leaving The LuLaRoe Family
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In part two with former LuLaRoe seller, Roberta Blevins, they discuss everything about LuLaRoe's founder DeAnne Brady and her family, the mother figure role DeAnne provided in Roberta's life, dealing with toxic positivity, and a thorough list of MLM red flags to look out for. Plus, how Roberta finally realized that she was in a cult and how startin…
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I married a Sex Addict! What sexual addiction is....and is Not.
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Deana discusses her 26 year marriage to a sexually addicted man and the constant turmoil, shame, and confusion caused by his behavior. Also, common myths about sexual addictions. Lastly, how to know if an addict is really willing to change, or if you're just a pawn in their game?? Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! The…
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Roberta Blevins, Part 1 - Inside LuLaRoe
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In part one with former LuLaRoe seller and Life After MLM podcast host, Roberta Blevins, she'll share how she first got involved in MLMS, what LuLaRoe was like, what the deal was with the wet smelly leggings, and what made realize that she did not want to be a part of MLM life anymore. We'll discuss how MLMs make good people act badly, what "huns" …
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Defining Glamour: The Art of Visual Persuasion in Marketing
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Welcome to "Manipulation Games: Psychology and Marketing," where we dive deep into the strategies that shape perceptions and drive consumer behavior. In this episode, titled "Defining Glamour: The Art of Visual Persuasion in Marketing," hosts Darren and marketing expert Gene Alder explore the fascinating world of glamour—its history, impact, and ap…
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Embracing the Chaos: First Step of Our Podcast
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Welcome to the inaugural episode of our yet-to-be-named podcast, where we dive headfirst into the world of creativity, randomness, and the beauty of letting things evolve organically. Your hosts, Gene Alder and Darren Kim, embark on a journey of exploration, not just into the vast world of marketing and psychology but into the very fabric of our be…
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You have been severely abused, strangled, and now you are terrified to face him in the courtroom (Oh, and he is a Police Officer)-Abigail's Story
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Abigail shares her moving and tragic story of the severe physical abuse she endured at the hands of her husband, finding the courage to leave, face him in court, and even risk the loss of her relationship with both children. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and In…
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Lola & Meagan - Am I in a Cult (or Just a Group)?
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This week, Lola and Meagan's guests are... Lola and Meagan! They talk about the cult of seeing everything as a cult, discussing how things that might seem a little culty don’t necessarily inherently mean that a group IS a cult. They’ll discuss political polarization, online miscommunication, group dynamics that happen in ALL groups, and the differe…
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Katelyn Jade Hlavaty, Part 2 - Satanic Ritual Abuse & Becoming a Spokesperson
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In part two of this listener story with Operation Light Force survivor, Katelyn Hlavaty, Lola and Meagan unpack how the leader's bogus healing protocol, which involved digging into old trauma, eventually led to Satanic Ritual Abuse. Katelyn shares how isolation from her family and a period of spontaneous remission from her bout Crohn's disease deep…
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Brain Fog & Exhaustion- The Matadoras
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Did you know that a toxic relationship can actually affect your brain? Stress, anxiety, and the constant uphill battles create a surge in adrenaline. Too much of this hormone (for too long) will overwhelm your brain, causing exhaustion, difficulty thinking, finding the right words, or remembering ANYTHING. What can you do to relieve it? Check out o…
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Realizing You Never Mattered; Tammie's story- The Matadoras
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Picture this; You are married 40 years, each year you get smaller and more insignificant....while trying to be a perfect wife, mother, and co-provider for the household you slowly lose yourself. He is indifferent, he is cold, and now....he is cheating on you. This is Tammie's story........ Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, any…
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Katelyn Jade Hlavaty, Part 1 - Joining Operation Light Force
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In part one of this wild listener story, Katelyn Hlavaty chats with Lola and Meagan about her experience in the evangelical healing ministry group, Operation Light Force. Katelyn shares how she joined the group when she was isolated and struggling with Crohn's disease, and how the group's promises of community, God, and literal physical healing see…
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Lizzie and Deana decide to grab a drink, and lighten things up a bit. In this episode, they discuss surviving their traumatic relationships, divorce, and starting over in mid-life, as well as what they are doing now. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram.…
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Sara Gorman - Science, Healthcare, and Why We Ignore Facts
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Sara Gorman, public health expert, CEO & founder of Critica, and author of Denying to the Grave: Why We Ignore the Facts That Will Save Us, joins Lola and Meagan to discuss the importance of the scientific method, why presenting evidence can feel like an attack, common debunked beliefs that persist in American culture, and the role that media plays…
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Jenna Miscavige, Part 2 - Escaping Scientology
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Former Sea Org member and niece of Scientology leader David Miscavige, Jenna Miscavige, talks about leaving "The Ranch" in order to join the Sea Org, getting involved in higher level management, how she barely knew her own parents, the constant level of paranoia she saw from everyone at all levels, what it was like to date within the Sea Org, how s…
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Financial Abuse; What does it look like?
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Money problems are all too common in toxic relationships, but why? Lizzie and Deana delve into what financial abuse looks like. Lizzie describes a recent relationship where her fiancé used money as a means to severely manipulate and control her. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow …
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The Exit Plan; safely leaving an abusive relationship
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Once an abuser realizes they're losing control, all hell can break loose, and it is vital to exit to a safe place BEFORE this occurs. Lizzie shares the heartbreaking story of her friend who didn't escape her abuser. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. …
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Jenna Miscavige, Part 1 - Growing up in Scientology's Sea Organization
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Former Scientology Sea Org member and niece of current Scientology leader David Miscavige, Jenna Miscavige, talks about being a third generation member, growing up in the infamous Sea Organization, doing child labor in a place called The Ranch, the strong snitching culture and knowledge reports that made it hard to trust anyone, bizarre educational…
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Crystal Hefner - Surviving The Playboy Mansion
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Crystal Hefner, former Playboy Playmate, Hugh Hefner's widow, author of Only Say Good Things: Surviving Playboy and Finding Myself shares how she ended going to the Playboy Mansion for the first time, getting invited by Hef to stay, her tightly controlled lifestyle and the weekly rituals that were designed to please Hef and no one else, how she fel…
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Chat with a Therapist; Are you the problem? Are they the problem??
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Deana and Lizzie interview Melissa Gonzalez, LMFT, and ask her some of your most popular questions about toxic relationships, how to know you are in one, symptoms you will experience in a toxic relationship, and what happens to our brain when we stay in these stressful situations?? Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Th…
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Lizzie and Deana discuss spiritual abuse, and that it isn't just a "church thing". Lizzie shares her very painful story of her first marriage, and the way that her ex used the Bible to humiliate, manipulate and control her. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Ins…
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Michelle Dowd, Part 2 - From the Mountain to the Hospital to Forging Her Own Path
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In part two of their conversation with Michelle Dowd, Lola & Meagan dig into when Michelle and her family moved to the mountain, why discomfort was considered a virtue, getting sick with an autoimmune disease at the age of ten, spending many months in the hospital away from The Field and her family, what happened after her cult leader grandfather p…
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Michelle Dowd, Part 1 - Becoming a Forager in The Field
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Professor, survivor of The Field, and author of Forager: Field Notes for Surviving a Family Cult, Michelle Dowd, discusses growing up in the cult founded by her grandfather in the 1930s, how it started as an after school program for boys and evolved into something more sinister, the wild claims that her grandfather made, traveling to perform plays …
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Have you ever found yourself in yet ANOTHER dysfunctional relationship? In this episode, Deana and Lizzie discuss 5 red flags to look for early in the relationship, and Lizzie humbly shares her experiences. Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would …
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Check out our website! Thematadoras.com Drop us a line, anytime! Thematadoras@gmail.com Like and follow us on YouTube, and Instagram. We would love to have you join us on our FB group; Women of Faith; Breaking Free From Toxic RelationshipsBởi Deana
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Thomas & Micah, Part 2 - Mormon Mission, Scientology, & Disney Adults
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Two formerly closeted religious men, Thomas and Micah, share how they came out to their families and left their beliefs behind. Thomas talks about going on a Mormon mission as a gay man, Micah shares how learning about scientology was a turning point in his life, the group shares their thoughts on #DISNEYADULTS, and Thomas and Michah give their adv…
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