Leadership Story Talks is a podcast hosted by Jerome Deroy, CEO of Narativ, and Julienne Ryan, business author, communication and HR specialist, and frequent Narativ training contributor.In each episode, Jerome and Jules discuss the practices that engage, motivate, develop, retain, and attract people to businesses, whether these are your customers or your employees. Their principles and tools are based on real world stories that leverage listening and storytelling to become a better leader a ...
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Leadership Story Talks | The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People with Kory Kogon
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In this insightful episode of Leadership Story Talks, co-hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan are joined by Kory Kogon, Vice President of Content Development at FranklinCovey and senior leadership consultant. Kory shares her perspective on FranklinCovey’s principles, focusing on the timeless impact of Stephen Covey’s "The 7 Habits of Highly Effecti…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the Value of Experience
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In this debrief episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan dive into a memorable excerpt from a previous conversation with Kaila Lim. They reflect on Kaila's perspective about how storytelling often outshines a traditional resume in the tech industry. Kaila emphasizes the importance of conveying your value and experiences through authentic storytellin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Persuasive Communication with Jennifer B Gardner
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In this insightful episode, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan sit down with Jennifer B. Gardner, a Los Angeles-based trial lawyer, educator, and part-time administrative law judge, to explore the themes of persuasive communication, storytelling, and leadership. Jennifer shares her journey through high-stakes litigation, discussing how storytelling has…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the Power of Listening
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In this insightful debrief episode, hosts Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan reflect on their interview with Cecilia Loving and Gina Leow focusing on their powerful approach to leading diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. Without ever using buzzwords like "DEI," Cecilia in particular shared how she successfully connected with her toughes…
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Leadership Story Talks | Creating Your Career Story with Kaila Lim
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In this episode, Jerome and Julienne sit down with Kaila Lim, Founder Experience Lead at Antler NYC. Kaila shares her career journey from finance to tech startups, discussing the power of storytelling in personal and professional development. She emphasizes the importance of community-building and recounts how vulnerability and resilience shaped he…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Change
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss the work of Curtis Bateman and his expertise on change in the workplace. Listen to their discussion with Curtis in Episode #106 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com…
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Leadership Story Talks | Connecting Through Circles with Cecilia Loving & Gina Leow
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“You can even have circles where there’s no talking whatsoever, but just the simple and full act of listening and being present for one another.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Cecilia Loving and Gina Leow, two leaders in diversity and inclusion at PBS. Cecilia, Senior Vice President, and Gina, Director of Diversity, Equity, and Inclu…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss the Path from Story to Outcome
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss the work of disability advocate Katherine Carol with her daughter Mikelle and their community at The Shining Beautiful Series. Listen to their discussion with Katherine in Episode #103 The Shini…
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Leadership Story Talks | Navigating Change with Curtis Bateman
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"The journey of change is important. And the goal isn't to eliminate that journey" In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan welcome back Curtis Bateman, best-selling co-author of "Change: How to Turn Uncertainty into Opportunity" and Vice President of Direct International Offices for Franklin Covey. With over 24 yea…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Our Shared Humanity
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss a collaborative book project, Echoes of Humanity, that Kelly collated and to which both Jerome and Julienne contributed. Listen to their discussion with Kelly Markey in Episode #104 KellyMarkey.…
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Leadership Story Talks | Stories of Shared Humanity with Kelly Marley
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Jerome Deroy and Julienne Ryan speak with Kelly Markey, an eight-time international bestselling author and passionate advocate for social justice and equality. Kelly's book, "Life of Jayandra," won the top book of the year award in 2024 for Suicide Awareness, and will be showcased on a New York City Times Square billboard on September 6, 2024. As t…
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Leadership Story Talks | Giving a Voice to the Disabled Community Through Storytelling with Katherine Carol
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In this episode of Leadership Story Talks, Jerome and Julienne welcome Katherine Carol, a recognized expert by the US Department of Labor, Office of Disability Employment Policy. Katherine shares her extensive career in helping individuals with intellectual and developmental disabilities secure employment, find necessary resources, and creatively n…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Walls
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss walls - real and imagined - after their discussion with Laura Miller in Episode #99 Next Gen Ethics Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com We encourage you to join ou…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss The 100th Episode Live Stream
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After last weeks very successful Leadership Story Talks 100th episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about the power of the stories told by nine of their returning guests. #leadership #storytelling #listening Listen to the 100th episode here ~ bit.ly/NarativWebsite_100 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com We encourage you t…
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Leadership Story Talks 100th Episode | LIVEstream on YouTube
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For our 100th episode, Leadership Story Talks was streamed LIVE on Youtube. Jerome & Julienne invited nine previous guests to tell a personal story based on a person or event that shaped who they are today. The guests in this extended podcast are: 1. Kevin Griffin - singer-songwriter, musician, festival founder LINKS Website Facebook Instagram 2. A…
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Leadership Story Talks | Running into Walls and AI Ethics with Laura Miller
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“Walls don't always look like what you think they do. Sometimes walls look like a no. Sometimes walls look like a oh heck no (...) and sometimes walls just look like we haven't been able to imagine it a different way (...) But once you start getting more familiar with walls, you start recognizing which kind you're finding. And then once you underst…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss The Business of Story
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss the 'business of story' after their discussion with Park Howel from The Business of Story in Episode #97 Park Howel's website Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com W…
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Leadership Story Talks | Storytelling in Business with Park Howell
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"Why does this one work? And why is this one an utter failure? Well, it turned out this one actually had a story structure of set up, problem, and resolution to it, and told a story intuitively" In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Park Howell, who is known as the world's most industrious storyteller, having grown purpose-driven brands by a…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Caring Bosses & AI
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss showing how much you care - when and how - and also AI in the workplace after their discussion with Cesar Keller from Collective Brains and WORKPLACE21 in Episode #95 Find out more about The Nar…
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Leadership Story Talks | AI, Humans & The Workplace with Cesar Keller
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"I love the saying "no one cares how much you know until they know how much you care. It doesn't matter how wise and knowledgeable your boss is, if they don't show that they care about you, and caring is the main condition to create trust." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Cesar Keller, an influential leader at the intersection of AI an…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Difficult Conversations
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss those difficult conversations brought up in a story told by Todd Davis of Franklin Covey in Episode #93 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com We encourage you to joi…
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Leadership Story Talks | Navigating Difficult Conversations with Todd Davis
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"If we realize, wait a minute, I can reduce the pain, and actually I can make progress if I focus first and foremost on balancing my needs and theirs, and if I get real clear on that balance of what we call courage and consideration." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Todd Davis, a senior consultant and thought leader at Franklin Covey w…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Pay Equity
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In this series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss pay equity from their talk with Sally Loftis of Loftis Partners in Episode #92 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com We encourage you to join our mailing list to sta…
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Leadership Story Talks | Pay Equity with Sally Loftis
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"Are you engaging people who are just trying to survive day to day and pay their bills? Or do you engage with people who have the capacity to dream and innovate for your company, because those day-to-day concerns are taken care of?" In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Sally Loftis. She's the managing director at Loftis Partners, a 100% wom…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Listening to Our Ancestors
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss learning from our ancestors from their talk with Craig Delarge in Episode #89 Find out more about The Narativ Storytelling Method at narativ.com We encourage you to join our mailing list to …
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Leadership Story Talks | Mental Health in the Age of Digital Technology with Craig Delarge
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"May we have a level of wisdom and literacy and will and purpose that allows us to rise to the occasion of using our technologies to keep ourselves and our children healthy." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Craig DeLarge. Craig is a digital healthcare strategist, mental health advocate, and educator at the Digital Mental Health Project…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Listening With People
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss listening with people from their talk with Corine Jansen in Episode #87 Notes *Learn more about the Global Listening Movement *Find Corine Jansen on LinkedIn Find out more about The Narativ …
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Leadership Story Talks | Listening With People with Corine Jansen
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"We should take more time for self-awareness and reflection to become aware of our instruments. How do we resonate with people with different views or different morals? Am I really curious to know the other, or just to get an answer?" In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Corine Jansen. Corine has over three decades of experience in communic…
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Leadership Story Talks | It's Always About People
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In this new series of shorter podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. When you're managing a project with multiple tasks and you're trying to complete the project, it's easy to see the project as a series of to-do's and deadlines. Don't forget that it's about people. Use storytelling an…
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Leadership Story Talks | Speaking the Language of Project Management with Kory Kogan
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"Every single person in the organization should understand the language of something (...), a leader should understand the language of project management, so they understand the foibles of it and the inspiration of it when they are assigning it to a project manager." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Kory Kogan. She is FranklinCovey’s Vi…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Giving Everyone a Voice
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss giving everyone a voice, mentioned by Workplace Wellness Expert Erica Reed in Episode #83 Notes *Learn more about Leading Well Solutions *Find Erica Reed on LinkedIn *Learn more about the on…
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Leadership Story Talks | Creating Workplace Wellness by Increasing Emotional Intelligence with Erica Reed
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"If you don't know what to say and you're afraid of saying the wrong thing, you say nothing. And then you have to have an awareness of what that nothingness is communicating." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Erica Reed. She's the founder of Leading Well Solutions, and she brings over 25 years of experience as a psychotherapist and work…
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Leadership Story Talks | Jerome & Julienne Discuss Intention + Attention
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In this new series of short podcasts, Jerome and Julienne discuss issues brought up by one of their Leadership Story Talks guests. In this episode they discuss using intention with attention mentioned by CEO and founder of WriterGirl Christy Pretzinger in Episode #81 Notes * Find Christy Pretzinger on LinkedIn * Learn more about WriterGirl Find out…
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Leadership Story Talks | Building a Business Based on Kindness with Christy Pretzinger
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"When I first started my business, I said to my accountant at the time, if I can't build a business based on kindness, then I'll go back to being a freelance writer." In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Christy Pretzinger, a dynamic, visionary innovator who has transformed the landscape of healthcare content creation as the owner and CEO o…
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Leadership Story Talks | Becoming AI Literate Citizens in a Global World with Melissa Drew
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“In order for us to be AI literate, we have to be aware of what and how much data we're creating. We have to understand when and how our personal data is being stored, shared, deleted, and sold to a third party. An AI literate citizen is someone who can feel confident that they understand how the data is being used in the products and services that…
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Leadership Story Talks | Data, Stories & Systemic Changes in Financial Health with Matt Bahl
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“How do we get employers to say that their workers are not risks to be managed but humans worthy of investment and dignity? That is a fundamental shift in the way that benefits are designed and oriented in a lot of contexts.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to their first returning guest! Matt Bahl is the Vice President of Market Lead Wor…
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Leadership Story Talks | Creating Human Connection in Healthcare & Beyond with Derek McCracken
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“Every conversation is a fresh performance. And even though we have skill sets we're bringing forward, that person is listening to this for the first time, and they are a new audience, and we have to meet them where they are.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Derek McCracken, a New York-based health equity activist who teaches narrative…
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Leadership Story Talks | Setting Intentions
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“What is your story right now? What's your story going to be for this year and beyond? January is always that month when you have an opportunity to sort of pause for just a minute and look at what's ahead and how you want to be.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about setting intentions. They explain the difference between resolutions, goa…
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Leadership Story Talks | How to Access Authenticity with Hava Horowitz
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“I'm thinking of authenticity on a moment-to-moment basis, in a threefold way: one, can I locate what feels true for me in this moment? This is that self-inventory piece. Two: Can I express what feels true for me in this moment? That's the communication piece. And, three, can I read the needs of the moment? Can I read my audience? Can I read my env…
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Leadership Story Talks | Failing Forwards
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“We don't have control. We can only have control of what we're doing and how we're reacting, and appreciating how the other people might be watching this situation and seeing how we can pivot and shift.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne reflect on the episode they did recently with C.M. Conway, a filmmaker who made a movie called “How to Succes…
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Leadership Story Talks | Embracing Humanity in Storytelling and Leadership with Elena Valentine
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“I'd like to think that the stories that we tell on behalf of our clients are helping them remember their why, their reason for being, and why they exist today.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Elena Valentine. She is the co-founder and executive director of Skillscout, a creative studio dedicated to transforming brand stories into com…
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Leadership Story Talks | Why Story? Why Now?
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“Even if you've told a story a thousand times to different audiences, every time you're going to tell that story to a new audience in a new location, in a new venue, or at a new time, you still have to ask yourself that question. Because once you answer that question anew every time, you are going to show up in a very different way.” In this episod…
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Leadership Story Talks | Bringing the Human Edge with Lisa Danels
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“If each one of us is aligned in that space where we have access to our heart, head, and gut, we have an incredible capacity within ourselves and our organizations. We create more capacity than we could possibly ever use to solve the problems that are in front of us.” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk to Lisa Danels. She is the founder and …
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Leadership Story Talks | Finding The Funny (& more) After Failure with C.M. Conway
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“Once you get past the emotional reaction, what is this failure telling me? Is it telling me to stop? Is it telling me to persevere? Is it not the right time, or do I need to dig a little deeper, and do I maybe need to find another way? Do I need to find another day?” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk with C.M. Conway, a filmmaker, marketin…
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Leadership Story Talks | Navigating Change & Emotion with Intention
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“Almost on a day-to-day basis, you hear things that you really do not believe in. It pushes your buttons, makes you angry, sad, upset, whatever it might be. It provokes a reaction, and the question is, what do you do with that?” In this episode, Jerome and Julienne talk about a recent experience Julienne had that led her to reflect on the importanc…
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Leadership Story Talks | Learning to Be Authentic with Ehsan Fahmi
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“There are all these different types of people that I've coached: men, women, executives, graduates, it doesn't matter. They all have the same challenge, and that challenge is how do I just be more myself in my job? It's literally this, and it all stems from the same cause, but it translates in different stories.” In this episode, Jerome and Julien…
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Leadership Story Talks | Data-Based DEI with Miranda McKie
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“You would go into these leadership meetings and for everything else it would be “okay, let me see the financials, let me see the numbers associated with it”. But diversity, equity, and inclusion was, “how do you feel”, right? And it would be, “how do you feel”, because we talked to maybe the five people of color at our organization, and that's how…
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Leadership Story Talks | with Heather Hansen
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“We need to start inviting everyone to the table if we want to have innovation and growth, because we're losing half our talent here or more because we're hugely outnumbered as native English speakers. The fact that we have this immediate power and dominance in the world due to our eloquence in English, I see as a massive inequality.” In this fasci…
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Welcome to a new season of Leadership Story Talks! In this episode, Jerome and Julienne kick off the new season and introduce the theme for this month: culture. How does an organizational culture shift in the face of the increasingly uncertain world that we’re in? What are the values that drive an organization, and individual people, and what happe…
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REPLAY ~ Leadership Story Talks | Leaders Listen
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This is a replay of a Leadership Story Talks podcast that originally posted on April 24th 2023. For this podcast series, Jerome and Julienne have been talking to many people about leadership. In this episode, they look back at the conversations they’ve had, talk about the things many of these leaders had in common, and share what they have learned …
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