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Outdoorsman and theologian Tony Jones sits down with fascinating people who find transcendence in their outdoors experiences. Hunters and anglers, hikers and kayakers, talk about how they connect to the divine, and to themselves, as they pursue their passions. The conversations are at turns poignant and humorous, illuminating and inspiring. If your spirituality is connected to the outdoors, this is the podcast for you.
 
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Tony chats with sociologist, professor, and gun convert David Yamane. They talk about the difference between mores and folkways, parking the wrong way on the street, studying religion while being openly religious, the secularization thesis, the sunk cost fallacy in academia, shooting a gun for the first time, Gun Culture 1.0 vs. 2.0, the uneven dis…
 
Tony talks with Hmong-Minnesotan hunter Keng Yang about getting on The Flush television show, going from anti-hunting to pro-hunting with the help of a dog, shooting a snipe and missing a goose, favorite hunting gear, loving TikTok, shamanism and ancestors, the secret war, and the secret hunters, and more. Find Keng on all the social medias, and at…
 
Chris Estus, aka Bonespur the Chappalachian, returns to the podcast. Having recently completed his year as the Chaplain on the Appalachian Trail, and hiking the entire trail, he tells Tony about flip, flop, and flying, slack packing, platinum blazing, having a trail family vs hiking alone, ignoring emails, ignoring bone spurs, falling down, getting…
 
Sigrid Nielsen is a hunter, hiker, and firearms instructor — and she is also trans*, lesbian, and queer. In 2021, after 48 years of living as a male, Sigrid transitioned to living as a female. Sigrid and Tony talk about her transition, sobriety, parenting, hunting, truth, honesty, trauma, God, and much more.…
 
Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein are evolutionary biologists and co-authors of the provocative new book, "A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century." They talk with Tony about adaptation, getting ourselves into the future, what we've lost, seeing meat as something than more than a substance, how all microscopic things are not out to get us, cr…
 
Tony sits down with two novice hunters whom he's mentoring, Brandon Morton and Chris Knutson, and they discuss loading chapstick into a shotgun, getting asked to hunt by a 7-year-old, coming back to shore with an empty boat, the responsibilities of a carnivore, enjoying the slow progression of hunting, challenging hunting stereotypes, becoming a be…
 
Tony chats with his dear friend, Seth O'Donovan, about the goats she loves, her favorite herbs, having a contract with the animals she butchers, knowing your place in the process, finding brains in the freezer, loving queerness, being a housewife, submitting to the cycles, and the freedom that comes with submission.…
 
Victoria Loorz is the author of "Church of the Wild." After leaving the traditional (aka, "indoor") church, she started a church of the wild and went on to co-found Seminary of the Wild and the Wild Church Network. Victoria and Tony talk about being classmates at seminary, how to be a Christian and love the planet, re-wilding our spirituality, just…
 
Sanjay Rawal is the filmmaker behind "Gather," a new documentary about a growing movement amongst Indigenous Americans to reclaim their spiritual and cultural identities through obtaining sovereignty over their ancestral food systems. Tony and Sanjay discuss how Christopher Columbus was like Mark Zuckerberg, how killing one buffalo killed two Lakot…
 
Scott Fransen is the co-host of the television show, The Flush, and the owner of Ron Schara Productions and Talk North. Scott and Tony discuss turning a three-day hunt into a 22-minute TV show, their shared passion for dogs, learning on the fly, the difference between male and female dogs, the risks of acquiring a business, researching hunting land…
 
Tony talks with long-time wildfire fighter and smokejumper, Timo Rova, about Finns and Swedes, the mystical Lutherans called Laestadians, the difference between smoke chasing and smoke jumping, parachuting into a wildfire, grizzly bears in camp, why it's a mistake to see fire as the enemy, how North America is a fire-dependent ecosystem, and Timo's…
 
David LaMere, the host of the Wild Huntsman Podcast, sits down with Tony to discuss a career in conservation law enforcement, growing up Catholic, the difference between a thurible and a chasuble, reading Russian literature, kids who cook, launching a podcast, going down ballistics rabbit holes, talking about the important stuff, and how hunting be…
 
John N. Maclean is the author of Home Waters, a book about growing up as the son of Norman Maclean, author of A River Runs Through It. John and Tony talk about Norman's mixed feelings about Dartmouth College, refraining from writing personal stories until later in life, not retiring, not living in the place that is home, reading the first draft of …
 
Meredith Leigh is the author of the award-winning Ethical Meat Handbook. Tony and Meredith discuss eating water buffalo in Vietnam, whether it is possible for seven billion people to eat meat ethically, what is the food Gestalt, how to "eat meat right," the power of the sun, staying calm during slaughter, the spirituality of butchery, and getting T…
 
Jason Mitchell is a champion duck caller, the heir apparent to Iverson Duck Calls, a former pastor and church planter, and a long-time friend. Tony and Jason talk about carrying a shotgun on a paper route, poaching on Mr. Hoover's ponds, ducky-sounding duck calls, the contemplative nature of a lathe, the process of the hunt running counter to your …
 
Justin Juntunen is the founder and owner of Cedar & Stone Sauna, a company that both builds custom saunas and leads sauna experiences in Duluth and around the country. Tony and Justin discuss growing up in Esko, Minnesota, sauna as a way of life, how there are more saunas than cars in Finland, why Lake Superior is a fickle mistress, keeping your he…
 
Brian McLaren is a best-selling author, pastor, activist, and avid outdoorsman. He talks with Tony about kayak fishing, taking his kids to a mucky swamp, how the wisdom of God is woven into the natural world, foolish politicians and the environmental crisis, how we can actually love the earth, how he sees the face of the divine in every living thin…
 
Tony's guest is Chris Estus, aka "Bone Spur," aka "The Chappalachian." Chris is the 2021 United Methodist Chaplain on the Appalachian Trail, and he checks in from a zero day in Pennsylvania. He and Tony discuss extricating from daily life to hike the trail, going outdoors to connect with others, recovery ministry, what's in Chris's pack, some of th…
 
Tony talks with Catholic theologian and historian Douglas E. Christie about his book, The Blue Sapphire of the Mind." They discuss contemplative ecology, Thoreau's laundry, our unconscious desire for healing, asceticism, learning how to love our fellow human beings, grieving for the world, becoming less fidgety, and more. Find Douglas's book here: …
 
Tony sits down with philosopher and trout fisherman J. Aaron Simmons, and they discuss Kierkegaard's leap of faith, doing the best you can with what you've got, how we know things, the phenomenology of fly fishing, living poetically, dancing with a river, and coming out of the pandemic. Find Aaron and his work at https://jaaronsimmons.wordpress.com…
 
Tony talks with theologian and hunter Don Payne of Denver Seminary. They how hunting antelope keeps Don hunting elk, mountain muleys, academics who don't understand hunting, animal-on-animal predation, overdetermining the Garden of Eden, and how Christians can respond to objections to hunting. Find Don at https://denverseminary.edu/about/department…
 
Tony's guest is his dear friend, Rabbi Joseph Edelheit. They discuss whether Jews hunt, why Nimrod is a biblical villain, whether you should follow Jacob or Esau, kashruth, Jews who ice fish, the ethics of kosher butchering, why Noah brought animals to the Big Do-Over, and leaving some crops out for the animals. Find Joseph and order his book at hi…
 
Tony's guest this week is Meadow Kouffeld, wildlife biologist, taxidermist, college professor, accomplished hunter, and single mom. They talk about growing up off-grid, pointers vs. flushers, getting claustrophobic in Europe vs. living in a FEMA trailer, not letting your dog's tongue near your face, battling intestinal parasites, taxidermy as an ac…
 
Tony sits down with Bob Timmons, editor of the StarTribune Outdoors Weekend section, and they talk about faith healing, Christian Science reading rooms, the uniquely spiritual architecture of a canoe, middle-aged men, whether bird watchers and bird shooters can work together, and more. Read Bob's writing here: http://www.startribune.com/bob-timmons…
 
Tony's guest this week is Bob St. Pierre, the chief marketing and communications officer for Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever. Tony and Bob talk about being a Yooper, blaze orange sport coats, the St. Paul Saints, Disco Demolition Night, hanging out with Bill Murray, the origins of PF, the magic sauce, keeping life in perspective, hunting with a…
 
Rep. Jamie Becker-Finn sits in the Minnesota House of Representatives and is Anishinaabe. She and Tony talk about her childhood on the Leech Lake Reservation, growing up as a Rez Catholic, walleye vs. perch, how white people can learn from native cultures without coopting them, working as an indigenous person in a colonial system, the spread of CWD…
 
Tovar Cerulli is the author of "The Mindful Carnivore: A Vegetarian's Hunt for Sustenance." Tovar and Tony discuss the journey from veganism to hunting, how life and death are constants, the two camps of hunters, the dietary benefits of meat, the spirituality of mortality, the ritual of butchering, and more. Find Tovar at tovarcerulli.com and buy h…
 
Courtney is not only Tony's spouse, she's also a photographer, yoga instructor, and an Enneagram teacher. Tony and Courtney discuss eating wild game yogically, reading a book while goose hunting, the joy of watching dogs hunt pheasants, how to best photograph a hunt, how the enneagram can help hunters work together and solo, and more. Find Courtney…
 
Tony chats with longtime StarTribune Outdoors columnist Dennis Anderson, and they talk about loose-meat sandwiches, hitchhiking to Ecuador, St. Sigurd Olson, small town cafes, Bud Grant, that feeling when the ducks drop in, and more. Read Dennis's columns at http://www.startribune.com/dennis-anderson/10644341/…
 
Tony welcomes Steve Chapman, the author of "A Look at Life from a Deer Stand" and many other books about hunting and faith. They discuss Steve's first squirrel hunt, his grandpa getting his arm amputated on the kitchen table, self-publishing his first book, storing ten thousand copies in the garage, an antelope hunt in Wyoming, finding the first dr…
 
Tony chats with London-based Italian chef and avid hunter, James Chiavarini. They discuss the 30% rule, shooting for the pot, pairing wild game with its natural environment, being biologically omnivorous, duck hunting in Wales, stalking red stags, the blueprint of our inner workings, and some wild game cooking tips for Thanksgiving. You can find Ja…
 
Tony talks with Jill Carroll, scholar of world religions and avid bird hunter. They discuss mosquitoes as big as teal, Texas hunting leases, losing faith at ORU, when your mom is the best hunter in the family, women who can do everything, reclaiming violent images of God, hubris and magical thinking, how the natural world does not conform to our mo…
 
Tony sits down with bestselling author and renowned speaker, Rob Bell, author of the new book, Everything Is Spiritual. Tony and Rob talk about whether they met in seminary, the awesomeness of dogs, why endings are painful but also good, getting criticized, leaving church ministry, how you know when it's time for a change, the spirituality of surfi…
 
Tony is joined in his backyard by Michael Chan, Old Testament professor, big game hunter, and founder of the God and Guns Project. Tony and Michael discuss hunting antelope out West, living in Isanti, joining the Navy at age 35, gutless quartering, honesty-local-conservation, stockipiling ducks, and more. You can find Michael on Instagram at @seize…
 
Billy Vaughn served in the marine corps for 21 years, then he attended seminary, voluntarily lived in a van on Skid Row, and started a recovery farm in Arkansas, where he now lives. Billy and Tony talk about getting shunned from church, going from poor to really poor, seven deployments and three combat tours, reading the Bible in Fallujah, asking a…
 
Tony's guest is Bracy Hill, a hunter and conservationist, an historian and theologian, a rancher and a professor at Baylor University, and the primary author and editor of God, Nimrod, and the World: Exploring Christian Perspectives on Sport Hunting. Tony and Bracy discuss Roman Catholics who drink whiskey while speaking in tongues, Texas ranchette…
 
Tony's guest this time is Murphy Robinson, a trans-masculine, pagan huntress. They discuss identities, being an animist, talking to trees and deer when they're alive, taking spirit journeys to deer when they're dead, living in a tiny house, the prayer before a hunt, trance work, the Norse goddess Skaði, and more. Find Murphy at http://mountainsonge…
 
Tony welcomes Rob Drieslein, managing editor of the Outdoor News. They talk about staying true to a religious heritage, convincing a Methodist to become a Lutheran, growing up in wildlife refuges, whether the Trump administration is the worst ever for conservation, the 30 Years War, hunting caribou in Alaska, losing faith, whether outdoors journali…
 
Tony talks with best-selling author Barbara Brown Taylor about the Holy Spirit as a bird, why living on a farm means you can't be romantic about death, the redemptive sound of the loon call, experiencing the sacred on the land, how place is a spiritual director, being hopelessly pagan, and more. Find Barbara's books at https://amzn.to/3ex4bNS.…
 
Tony chats with Father Ted Vitali, a Passionist priest, hunter, philosophy professor at St. Louis University, and ethicist for Boone & Crockett. They discuss Labrador retrievers, process theology, whether animals have rights, why it's harder to kill a deer at 10 yards than at 100 yards, and having a "sufficient reason" for killing an animal.…
 
Tony talks with conservationist and newly-minted hunter, Ashley J. Peters, about growing up Assemblies of God, saving birds during the week and shooting them on the weekend, a dad with cancer, St. Sigurd, Larry Norman vs. DC Talk, focusing on the things we can control and letting go of those we can't, and more. Find Ashley on social media at @ashjp…
 
Tony sits down with Mark Norquist, founder of Modern Carnivore, and they discuss growing up in small town Brainerd, a lake cabin built in 1919, moon boots at deer camp, being welcomed at church, the death of a father, knowing where your meat comes from, and more. Find Mark at modcarn.com.Bởi Ron Schara Productions
 
On May 7, 2020, Darrin Patrick died. Two weeks earlier, Darrin and Tony recorded this interview. Darrin talks about his implosion and restoration, his love of hunting and the woods, why he returned to ministry, baseball, his difficult relationship with his father, and how much he loved hunting and fishing with his own kids. Tony also talks with Gre…
 
Tony talks with Sean "Shug" Emery, comic-juggler and YouTube star, about hammock camping, growing up in the South, moments of regard, singing gospel tunes over moonshine, getting sober on a cruise ship, happiness vs. joy, and more. You can watch Shug at https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC27nqmEhKzD9YHK1IFwG7qA and read Tony's profile of him here: ht…
 
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