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Biracial co-hosts Sara & Misasha - two wickedly smart, funny, compassionate best friends - have very mixed-race children between them, and are personally invested in helping to uproot systemic racism. Weekly episodes include interviews of people whose stories you might not often listen to; deep dives into history, psychology, and current events to explain why we are where we are as a country; and actions that you take right now to make change in your spheres. We're not perfect, but we're rea ...
 
Dirty Money Moves: Women in White Collar Crime deep dives into cases involving a more rare type of criminal, women who commit financial crimes. In Season One, host Jami Rice of MURDERISH podcast takes listeners on a journey to investigate Mary Carole McDonnell, a self-proclaimed heiress and the CEO of a TV production company based in Los Angeles well known for all of the complex lies she told for decades. In Season Two, Jami takes listeners on a journey to investigate Tara Lee, a woman with ...
 
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This week, Jami Rice speaks with Teresa Matheny, a survivor of Tara Lee’s adoption scandal. Teresa opened up about all of the hoops she had to jump through to get the baby she was promised from Tara Lee, which almost didn’t happen. She also walks Jami through how she met Tara, and how she discovered that she was a con artist running adoption scams.…
 
This is not the episode we wanted to record this week - but it’s the one that we NEEDED to record this week. Why? Because just as we’re venturing down the rabbit hole of topics over the next few months that is Civic Engagement and making a difference for 2024, we had blatant scary fearful reminders about why we want you all to know and do more - be…
 
Attorneys Talia Goetting & Tonya Corrado worked with Tara for a time. They were actually about to go into business with her when everything came to a screeching halt. Talia and Tonya began noticing red flags, and soon enough, they were working with the FBI to take Tara down. In this episode, you’ll hear directly from Talia and Tonya about their exp…
 
I’m just a bill, on Capitol Hill… do you remember that song, from Schoolhouse Rock? If that jogs your memory, this is the episode for you. If you’re too young to remember that song, this episode is for you. If you hate that song, this episode is for you. Why? Because this episode is about civics - in other words, how our government functions. We’re…
 
Tara Lee had the opportunity to quietly do her prison time and follow through on the court’s orders, but she just couldn’t do it. Tara began making statements that she was innocent; she didn’t complete the victim impact statement recordings as ordered by the court; and she began filing appeals to have her conviction vacated, all of which kept her f…
 
We promised to bring you more conversation about civics and engagement - and today we get to bring you a “real talk” episode about one of our favorite topics - civics, engagement, and a White Woman’s Work. Plus, as a special bonus, we do this in conversation with NYT Bestselling Author Kate Schatz - a queer white woman - who is basically the perfec…
 
Tara Lee’s sentence hearing was attended by dozens of her victims, many of whom traveled great distances to see her be punished. They sobbed while giving statements to the court about how Tara hurt them. Some people even addressed Tara directly. It wasn’t only adoptive families speaking, birth mothers and fathers, people who had their children take…
 
One of our philosophies is that anti-racism work has to be done in a way that’s sustainable - meaning, just like we can’t post a black square to Instagram and say we’re done, we also can’t spread ourselves too thin or work ourselves to the point of irredeemable fatigue because then we also stop having impact. So to kick off this year, we are bringi…
 
Tara Lee told horrible lies about birth mothers being murdered, babies dying during childbirth, or mothers deciding to keep their babies when, in reality ..there wasn’t a mother or baby at all. Thanks to the efforts of several adoptive parents and the lawyers who worked with Tara, the FBI was notified and given a ton of information to go on as they…
 
Welcome to Episode 200 of our podcast, and welcome to 2023! Akemashite omedetou gozaimasu! (Happy New Year!) In our first episode of this new year, we want to reintroduce ourselves, give you a run of where we’ve been with our platform, and make sure you have an overview of what you can expect from us this coming year. As we’re heading into yet anot…
 
Allow me to introduce you to Live, Laugh, Larceny …a satire podcast that is the perfect palate cleanser after listening to so much dark true crime content. Each week, hosts Amanda and Trevin walk listeners through ridiculously petty crimes in a dramatic way with moody music and funny sound effects sprinkled throughout. Take a break from heinous tru…
 
It’s that time of year when everyone starts to think about not only the end of this current year but also the beginning of the next. And friends, we’ve got some big plans for next year - but we’ll save that for EPISODE 200 (our next episode, and our first of 2023!). This episode will be a little bit of year-end reflection for us - and if these ques…
 
Tara Lee and her husband Jeremy were in financial ruin. They had lost another home to foreclosure, and Tara’s wages were still being heavily garnished. There was another bankruptcy, the purchase of another, larger home, a new car, and they adopted two babies between 2012 and 2014. During all of her financial woes, Tara established Always Hope and i…
 
This was a conversation that made us lose track of time. Because even if the core conversation about transracial adoption doesn’t capture your attention - which it should because nearly 30% of kids who are adopted are adopted across borders or across cultures or race - the trajectory this conversation takes into why adoption should NOT be positione…
 
Last week’s episode covered Tara Lee’s extensive history of fraud and the numerous civil judgments that had been levied against her, which dramatically affected her finances for years to come. And by the time 2014 rolled around, there were a few more financial setbacks. Even so, it seemed like Tara made some positive steps toward changing her life:…
 
It’s December, the time of year when it seems like regardless of whether you celebrate Christmas or Hannukkah or Kwanzaa or anything else or nothing at all, our schedules get busy. And lots of times, this busyness centers around food, be it potluck gatherings at work, holiday parties, big family dinners, or even coffee and treats with friends - bec…
 
In season two of Dirty Money Moves, Jami’s taking you along on a deep dive into a woman with an expensive taste for luxury jewelry and accessories, who satisfied her desires by taking money from the vulnerable and disadvantaged; a woman who preyed on the hopes and dreams of hundreds of desperate people, destroying countless families for generations…
 
We’ve been asked a lot about how to have uncomfortable conversations lately - namely, the reality that, yikes, my people are coming over for the holidays and how on earth do I handle it when those uncomfortable, racist, inappropriate comments and jokes come up? (Because let’s be real - they’re coming up.) While there is no official checklist for su…
 
This week, host of Life After MLM podcast Roberta Blevins joins Jami to end the mini-series on Beachbody. Together, they chat about the manipulation of MLMs and how just because you’re selling lipstick and shakes, it’s still very culty and there are repercussions. Plus, Roberta reveals some of the experiences she’s had pre and post MLM. Sponsors: S…
 
For those of you who have been listening to Dear White Women from the beginning, or for those listeners who just joined us (welcome!), you probably understand that this whole platform comes from our own deeply personal connections not only to this work but to the world that we’d like to see in the future, as we find that it’s often that personal co…
 
This week, we’re featuring an episode from a podcast you should check out. How Not to Raise a Serial Killer, hosted by criminal psychologist Dr. Michelle Ward, is a true crime podcast that digs into the childhoods of some of the most notorious criminals and killers in order to learn from them and prevent future tragedies. Join Michelle and her sist…
 
For a lot of the second half of this year, student debt relief and the student loan crisis have been in national news - and there have been a LOT of feelings about it, ranging from joy and happiness that some of this extreme burden to repay what often can amount to predatory lending practices has now been lifted to the other extreme, which amounts …
 
In the last episode, Jami talked about Beachbody’s highly sought after and controversial shake brand, Shakeology, and whether there’s any magic to them …or if they’re just an expensive snack. This week, Jami discusses Beachbody “coaches” and how they use problematic sales tactics to get more people to join their MLM company. Sponsor- Prose: Visit p…
 
Hey, so remember how last week we were talking about how we have hope? This is another conversation and way of thinking that gives me hope - in particular for anybody who knows children, knows new parents, or thinks they might eventually know folks who might want to stop reading the outdated encyclopedia that we call What to Expect when you’re Expe…
 
In this episode, Jami talks about Beachbody’s favorite meal replacement drink...Shakeology. Are these shakes a healthy weight loss tool, or are they more of a problematic, restrictive eating tool? Where things get very dicey is when Beachbody “coaches,” who don’t have any health or nutrition expertise, are touting the product as being a nutritious …
 
If you’re reading this on the day this episode comes out, this is a big, big day in America. It’s Election Day 2022, and we don’t think it’s an understatement to say that this is the most important election that those of us who have the privilege to vote in will be voting in - because this election may determine if you or I even get to be able to v…
 
Now that we’ve wrapped our mini series on Gwen Shamblin, we’re bringing you another one. In this mini series, we’re tackling an enterprise many of you are probably familiar with. Multi-level marketing companies, or MLMs. Specifically Beachbody, an MLM that offers the girlboss dream …financial independence, working from home and being your own boss.…
 
DEAR WHITE WOMEN - About that Voter Fraud… If you saw the title and thought “oh, I don’t believe voter fraud impacts me” or “oh, I live in an area where we don’t hear much about that” - you may be very, very wrong. According to a recent analysis by FiveThirtyEight, 60% of Americans will have an election denier on the ballot. And for those of you wh…
 
This week, we’re featuring an episode from a podcast you should check out. A Nefarious Nightmare, hosted by best friends Amanda and Courtney, is a true crime podcast that covers cases of particularly vulnerable victims and survivors. The episode we’re featuring covers the homicide case of Katie Palmer, a woman who was struck by a vehicle while walk…
 
Abortion, by all pollster accounts, seems to be one of – if not THE most – hot-button issues for the upcoming midterm elections in 2022. That’s why we thought it was so important for us to dive into why and when abortion became so political - because yes, we can point to a specific political strategy that linked the pro-life movement with the Repub…
 
This week, Emily Hanks, host of She Speaks Bravo podcast, joins Jami to end the mini-series on Gwen Shamblin Lara. Together, they chat about the registered dietician turned church leader and her shocking demise. Sponsors: Framebridge: Frame your photos or send someone the perfect gift today at Framebridge.com Follow us @DirtyMoneyMoves on Instagram…
 
If you asked me (Misasha) at the end of 2021 how long it had been since we published our book, I would have told you 5 years, give or take 3 - because it felt like we had been thrown into this whirlwind of activity and PR and interviews and ALL OF THE THINGS about this book. So it seems impossible that just now marks the one-year anniversary of the…
 
What began as a normal private plane flight with Gwen, Joe and their inner circle of friends turned out to be a short-lived devastating end. With Gwen Shamblin Lara out of the picture, who will take over the reins of Remnant Fellowship? Follow us @DirtyMoneyMoves on Instagram, TikTok and Twitter. If you enjoy Dirty Money Moves, please leave us a po…
 
Have you ever had your eyes glaze over when someone hands you a history textbook or walks you through a museum full of facts and dates? But then you hate yourself because you are smart and yet don’t feel like you *know* things? I’ve been that person (it’s Sara here) - which is why I’m absolutely thrilled to share this conversation with the authors …
 
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