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EPP Podcast is a production of Enneagram Prison Project (EPP). Hosted by EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, these raw conversations unpack the amazing journey of EPP over the past 11 years and more. EPP is on a mission to help people to understand why we do what we do, using the Enneagram to inspire transformation—on both sides of the bars—through self-awareness, self-regulation, and self-compassion.
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Jan Shegda is a guide for EPP. She is also quite involved with the project behind the scenes administratively in a variety of spaces. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Jan for a conversation about baby animals, MBTI, and trauma. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.…
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Becky is a community builder for EPP. She's also married to one of our in-custody participants. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey and EPP Guide Laura Hooper sit down with Becky for a conversation about hope, love, and building a relationship through incarceration. (Note: This episode was originally scheduled for release in October, and we'…
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Cynthia Riha is a Guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Cynthia for a conversation about community, heart, and being real. Special thanks to EPP Guide Laura Hooper for joining us once again on the podcast. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.…
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Troy Phillips is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Troy for a conversation about freedom, responding, and the gift of presence. Also in this episode, we pause at 45:51 to share a few Words of Appreciation for EPP Board Member Lance White. For more information about EPP, plea…
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Ahshua Bolton is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits with down Ahshua for a conversation about the prisons of our own making, doing the work together, and more. Also in this episode, we pause at 31:10 to share a few Words of Appreciation for EPP Ambassador Dustin Baldwin . For more information about…
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Stella Strazdas is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Stella for a conversation about first impressions, apprenticing, and dancing with one another in equality. Special thanks to EPP Lead Guide Laura Hooper for joining this conversation and playing quite a role in the events we discuss. A…
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Clay Tumey is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Executive Director Rick Olesek sit down with Clay for a chat about May 21, 2007—the day the good began. Also in this episode, we pause at 37:49 to share a few Words of Appreciation for Susanne Gawreluk. For more information about EPP, ple…
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Sue Lambert is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project. She is also a guide and on the faculty for EPP. In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Sue for a chat about getting out of jail, going back to prison, and a never-ending gift. Special thanks to EPP Founder Susan Olesek for joining this conversation and helping …
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Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project. Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP. They are partners both in life and in the project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Rick & Susan to celebrate and discuss EPP's 11th year in existence. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation fo…
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Susanne Gawreluk is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project, and her husband, Mike, has a background in telecommunications network engineering. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Mike & Susanne for a conversation about graduation, new outlooks on life, and what it's like to go inside a prison for the first time. For more informa…
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Laura Hooper is a guide for Enneagram Prison Project. She is also a program manager (and much more) for the project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Laura for a conversation about stress, programming on the inside, and why we serve those who may never have a release date. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words…
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Episode 23: The Work that Never Ends
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Dustin Baldwin is an Ambassador for Enneagram Prison Project, and Dana Vitorelo is an EPP Guide. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Dustin & Dana for a conversation about going back to prison, mail call, and their recent trip to Belgium. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for Ariane Kessel. Fo…
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Alex Senegal is an Ambassador for the Enneagram Prison Project. He is also a member of the board for EPP. In this episode, fellow EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Alex for a chat about learning the Enneagram on the inside, representing EPP on the outside, and much more. Also in this episode, we pause to share a few Words of Appreciation for…
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Episode 21: Guide Training Program | Part 2
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Continuing our discussion about EPP's Guide Training Program (GTP) in this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with Djinnaya, who recently completed GTP and has moved on to be an apprentice. In this episode, Djinnaya shares with us in detail her introduction to the Enneagram, EPP, and ultimately the path of becoming a guide. Also in this episo…
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Episode 20: Guide Training Program
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EPP Guides are constantly growing, conscious individuals who have journeyed their own inner terrain with enough depth and skill to offer their wisdom, experience, and steady presence to others who are navigating their own journeys. The Guide Training Program (GTP) is about developing and bringing out those particular skills and gifts, as well as fi…
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Sherrie Lee is a self-described newbie in the Enneagram world. She’s also Mom to EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey. In this episode, Sherrie and Clay sit down for a chat about character assessments, prison chats, and new perspectives. Special thanks to EPP Guide Dana Vitorelo for (among many other things) helping to make this episode possible. Also in this…
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Episode 18: Making the Decision
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In this episode, we go back in time to October 2015 for a conversation with EPP Founder Susan Olesek and EPP Ambassadors Victor Soto and Clay Tumey about opening up on the inside, being willing to look at a new way, and making the decision to take the first step in a new direction. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject…
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In this episode, we hear from a variety of campers—ambassadors, faculty, guides, and more—at the inaugural EPP Camping Trip, which happened in Northern California just outside of Yosemite National Park the last weekend of August 2022. Good food, hiking, swimming, dominoes and so much more. Listen in for a peek into a weekend of community with the E…
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In this episode, three EPP Guides (Halida Hatic, Scott Tavenner and Jan Shegda) share their experiences from a recent trip to a San Diego prison where Enneagram Prison Project held a weeklong intensive with 60+ residents across three classes. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.…
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Clay Tumey wraps up the first season of the EPP Podcast with clips and commentary. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.Bởi Enneagram Prison Project
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Episode 14: THE Enneagram Prison Project (10 Year Anniversary Episode)
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Susan Olesek is the Founder of Enneagram Prison Project. Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of EPP. They are partners both in life and in the project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey sits down with Susan & Rick to talk about the entire journey of EPP as it has unfolded over the past decade, plus the years that preceded the project's i…
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Episode 13: The Mountain Doesn’t Care
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Eric McCluskey is a longtime friend of Enneagram Prison Project and is also a member of the Board. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey returns to the Bay Area for a conversation with Eric that spans everything from the scaling of EPP to the magnitude of nature. Also in this episode, we are introducing a new segment called Words of Appreciati…
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Episode 12: Not a Supposed-to-be-agram
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Laura Hooper is a Program Manager and Guide for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Laura to discuss topics including the importance of not “othering” the incarcerated, the value of a hug, and much more. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPri…
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Tara Meehan is a long-time supporter of Enneagram Prison Project and also a member of our board. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Tara to discuss everything from life as Type Seven to the joy associated with generosity. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProj…
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Episode 10: Outside My Realm of Comfort
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Lance White is a board member for Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits New Mexico and sits down for a conversation with Lance to discuss everything from business ownership to what it’s like having a child serving time in prison. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.…
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Episode 9: Conversations at the Dinner Party
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In this special Giving Tuesday Bonus episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with EPP Guide and graphic artist Robin Grant and beloved friend and partner of the project Dr. Heather Greenwald. Pull up a chair and join the conversation as they explore topics ranging from their personal origin stories with…
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Rick Olesek is the Executive Director of Enneagram Prison Project. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits California and sits down for a conversation with Rick about topics ranging from funny movie quotes to leaving a career in private enterprise for a journey more meaningful. For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonP…
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Episode 7: More than a Workbook
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EPP Guides walk alongside the incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey visits Minnesota and talks with Phil GebbenGreen and Susanne Gawreluk—two EPP Guides who are responsible for our first local community outside of California. For more information about EPP, please visit Enneag…
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Episode 6: I'm in this with you
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EPP Guides are on the frontline of taking the enneagram into prisons to share with the populations who need it most. More than simply teaching, our guides walk alongside those incarcerated in finding a way out of the prisons of our own making. In this episode, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey chats with EPP Guides Dana Vitorelo and Camilla Norman Field. F…
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Russ Hudson is one of the principal scholars and innovative thinkers in the Enneagram system’s development worldwide. In this episode, Clay and Russ sit down to chat about a variety of topics including Euclidean geometry, poisoned gummy bears, and why the Enneagram is not a tic-tac-toe board. Please visit RussHudson.com for information about teachi…
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In this 2-hour episode, some of our EPP Ambassadors share their stories of re-entry in a powerful and moving conversation about the moments before, during, and after release. In this poignant and insightful episode, fellow EPP Ambassador and host Clay Tumey inquires about our Ambassador's personal journey with the Enneagram, how they found EPP, and…
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In episode 3, EPP goes to jail for the very first time. During a truly touching walk down memory lane, you are invited to listen as Clay Tumey reconnects two unusual Facebook friends, EPP Ambassador Vic Soto, and Neelam Wadhwani, the retired Program Manager from the facility at which Vic served his last sentence ending 17 years of incarceration. Fo…
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The EPP Podcast is back this month as our host, EPP Ambassador Clay Tumey, "turns the tables" on EPP Founder Susan Olesek for a not-to-be-missed conversation about the Enneagram, hosting a relationship panel in prison, and the birth of Enneagram Prison Project! For more information about EPP, please visit EnneagramPrisonProject.org.…
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In this inaugural episode, three EPP ambassadors—Clay Tumey, Victor Soto, and Alex Senegal—chop it up and talk about daily life, crosswalk safety, and what it means to be “O.G.” Casual dialogue among brothers, this first episode offers a quick glimpse into what it’s like to be an Ambassador of the Enneagram Prison Project. For more information abou…
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