Two saucy Catholic women leaping out from the trenches of watered down Catholicism. Follow us into the deep. Bring your own towel! Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/messybuns/support
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S3 E16 - Unsung Hero: The Story of Bella’s Birthmother
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Well I knew adoption would change our lives by finally making us parents, but I did not expect to witness such heroic love in a woman that might have otherwise been invisible to me - kind of embarrassing to admit that. I went into the process selfishly in many ways, but my demeanor shifted slowly as I got to know Bella’s “tummy mommy.” That is sayi…
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S3 Bonus E15- Hope for When Mother's Day isn't Happy
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Hey friends! Mary here. I flew solo for this episode because Elise was sick, but the show must go on! It is almost Mother's Day weekend- one that comes around once a year, but is dreaded by many women struggling through infertility and pregnancy loss. I'm no stranger to this feeling, but have found some comfort in recent years as God has broadened …
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Being quarantined has put a damper on the last couple of months- and maybe even the next few to come. So, we took a break from our in-depth convos to bring you a light hearted and fun game night episode. We each did our own secret quiz research, so neither of us knew what to expect. It was kind of scary.Listen as Elise discovers her internal Disney…
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S3 E13- Anatomy of a Friendship
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Friendships can fill us up, drain our cups, or be anywhere in between. In this episode, Elise and I share the story of our friendship and how it was restored after a breakup that lasted years. We are so incredibly grateful that we were patient and open to God as he facilitated our reunion. There is so much opportunity for growth through our relatio…
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S3 E12- How to Talk to Your Infertile Friends
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It’s National Infertility Awareness Week and since we have already spoken a lot to the heart of the infertile, we wanted to take this opportunity to speak to the hearts of those who care so much for us! We went a little long on this one, but it was worth it. We did not anticipate how needed this chat would be! So whether you are infertile and need …
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Can you imagine the pure joy that St. Mary Magdalen experienced as she realized she was gazing upon her risen Lord after she thought his body was taken? Apparently the radiant angels didn’t even faze her- she just wanted to see Him!Jesus is risen! He wants us to experience His joyful presence every day. The more willingly we step into our suffering…
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S3 E10- Our Take on Life During Covid-19
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Fear of a virus and the experience of being quarantined has thrown a huge wrench into all of our plans and all of our emotions. But as always, we have some thoughts for keeping the faith and remaining hopeful! Elise has been essentially living “quarantine adjacent” for nearly 2 years since her chronic illness worsened, so she has already been throu…
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“Docile” is defined as “ready to accept instruction; submissive.” It is a quality that is important in the ripening of every Christian, especially when it comes to our plans - both immediate and long term. How easily are we able to “make moves” when the Holy Spirit directs us to? The more we grow in trust and patience, the more naturally docility f…
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It’s time for a little Lenten check-in! We are about 2 weeks in and have some thoughts about preparation, effectiveness, and endurance: 1. We suck at Lent 2. How to choose what to give up 3. Do I give something up at all? 4. What’s the point? We share our own personal Lenten challenges and talk about standing firm in our identity, especially when S…
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S3 E7- Love in Action; Choosing a Spouse & Appreciating the Highs and Lows of Marriage
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We are following up from our last episode about sex with some chat about authentic love, suffering well together, choosing a spouse, and some thoughts on divorce.We share our personal experiences of how we’ve learned from our husbands well before they were our husbands. They chose us for who we are and not for what we can offer them.These are the c…
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S3 E6 - Dating, Marriage, & Sexy Sex
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Soooo, we date and try to remain chaste. Then we get married and we still try to remain chaste. Avoiding sex is hard, but You’re. Not. Alone! We invited two of our good friends Bridget (newly married) and Mary Grace (in a serious relationship) to have some good, honest girl chat about sex. And to support one another. Have you struggled with this? H…
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We watched a recent high school Valedictorian give an exceptional speech that rocked our socks off. So we had to podcast about it. Link to Full Speech: https://youtu.be/T76FdtKreNQ Also referenced in this show: Fr. Mike Schmitz on "The Value of Silence": https://youtu.be/-hHjdLtNOwg Music: Simply Vanity by CHRIS HOWLAND @chris_howland itunes.apple.…
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It’s extremely widespread in use, but few users know why it was created and what it does to their bodies.How does it work? Is it really an abortifacient? Are there other options?I’m this episode, Mary presents many surprising facts about hormonal birth control and we challenge the idea that it empowers women.How can lack of knowledge empower women?…
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S3 E3 -Like Dr. Seuss says: A Person’s A Person No Matter How Small
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In this episode we continue our pro life theme by discussing the beginning of life at conception, this time with a special guest! Elise’s husband, William, hung out with us to talk about their son Elijah Michael Bennett and how very real his life is, despite how tiny he was. And how present he still is! When people deny the life of a baby at variou…
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S3 E2 - A Pro-Life Take on Michelle Williams’ Golden Globe Comments
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January is Pro-life month and as many prepare for the March for Life in DC, many are still recuperating from Michelle Williams’ Golden Globe acceptance speech. In this episode, we break apart some of her quotes and how her thoughts relate to the choice to have sex and living true to women empowerment, exposing many errors in her comments in a way w…
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Discernment; often otherwise known as “big question marks.” In general, discernment can be tricky. And we feel that discerning adoption carries its own special brand of crazy. Let us explain why... Elise and I share our personal journeys through adoption discernment and give you another bird’s eye view of the process, but from different perspective…
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S2 E10- Female Victor Whispers: “Pen & the Beast”
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Female Victor Whispers will be a recurring series after ViCTRiX (Latin; “Female Victor”) releases a new song. Lyrics can be powerful. Mary found great healing in expressing her pain and creativity through her lyrics. She and Elise will discuss the origins of each song, what inspired each line, and what it means to Elise. Today we talk about ViCTRiX…
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How hard is it to say “no?!” ...especially when you’re a people pleaser? How about saying “no” to yourself 😳? In this episode, we talk about knowing (or trying to understand) our limitations and sharpening our daily discernments regarding priorities.Our worth is not measured by how many responsibilities we have. Doing more is not always the answer …
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S2 E8- Vanity Insanity and Obedient Ingredients
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Woo! That’s a mouthful. Elise and I both struggle with vanity- not the “we love looking at ourselves in the mirror” kind, but the “we care too much about what other people think” kind. Did you know that is also considered vanity?In this episode, Elise breaks down the 3 root sins for us, which is SO helpful in understanding ourselves and growing in …
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Elise and I watched different interviews with Kanye West since his conversion and heard some memorable and meaningful quotes from this infamous artist. Is his conversion genuine? Does he want attention? Who knows. Either way, wise words and Jesus praise from such a notable person in pop culture is worth having a conversation about. Come fight with …
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Don’t worry, we love Jesus in the Eucharist way too much to actually do this. But we both often feel a lack of fire and excitement in our Church. We want to be challenged and set on fire! We found a priest who did this for us within the first 30 seconds of his homily. This is what we are talking about today. Pre-game with the link to this homily: h…
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S2 E5- Adoption: An Under-Discussed Gem
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November is National Adoption Awareness Month!The average person has a pretty limited understanding of adoption. Consider your own perceptions and how those have developed through TV, church, and other people’s comments (or lack thereof). Elise and I both have personal experience with it, so in this episode we approach aspects of this under-discuss…
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Y’all. When did Jesus say “Be fruitful...but only if you’re married and can physically have children?” Hm, never. Whether this is verbally stated in Catholic culture or not, we all feel the weight of this idea. But God calls as all to be fruitful in so many ways, whether we have numerous little humans or not. Satan wants to limit us. God wants us t…
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S2 E3- What Turning the Other Cheek Doesn’t Mean
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What Turning the Other Cheek Doesn’t Mean What is the difference between choosing to love no matter what and respectfully standing up for yourself? Hmm, nothing. Often the choice to love will be hard. Sometimes it means saying hard things (respectfully) for the good of another. We talk about personal experiences, friendships, and we brought back th…
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S2 E2, Part 2- Meet The 2nd Saucy Catholic
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Meet The 2nd Saucy Catholic Meet Mary. Endometriosis wrecked her plans then facilitated growth in the most beautiful ways. Physical pain, infertility, adoption, rapping? In this episode, she explains how she found purpose in awful situations. And then she couldn’t stop finding purposes... Come fight with us! Music: Simply Vanity by CHRIS HOWLAND @c…
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S2 E1, Part 1- Meet These 2 Saucy Catholics
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Allow us to reintroduce ourselves in part 1 of our first episode in over a year. Where the heck have we been? Get to know us, starting with Elise- from chronic illness, infertility, and a life-threatening miscarriage to finding true joy through daily struggles. She and Mary can’t help but “go there” with most conversations. This episode is no excep…
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S1 E2- Larry Nassar is a Stupid Face!
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Join us as we talk about TRIPS TO THE DENTIST, GOSSIPING, THE STRENGTH OF ABUSE VICTIMS, FORGIVENESS and WORD OF THE DAY! Mary & Elise are half of The Wise Fools team bringing you their podcast about life & womanhood! The Wise Fools is a media initiative to bring entertainment and conversation from four different perspectives to the masses Facebook…
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Join us as we talk about MARCH FOR LIFE, WOMENS MARCH, GOING TO CHURCH IN MEXICO, FLOATING SHOES and MORE! Mary & Elise are half of The Wise Fools team bringing you their podcast about life & womanhood! The Wise Fools is a media initiative to bring entertainment and conversation from four different perspectives to the masses. Facebook: www.facebook…
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