In this weekly podcast, composer, producer, and educator Eric Copeland of Make Music Income talks about his continuing journey to Make Music Income with Sync Licensing, Stock Music Licensing, Artist Income, Online Channel Income, Music Publishing, Music Teaching, and Music Production for clients. Co-host Steven Beddall of the Production Music Academy also joins Eric in many episodes, as well as Dave Kropf and many others.
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EP134. FOUR Reasons Why You Don't Make Music Income | Simple...But True!
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43:27So you say, "Eric, I WANT to make music income, I really do." Here are 4 reasons why you may not be making music income or not enough that you want. #producer #composer #musician // SELL YOUR MUSIC ON NON-EXCLUSIVE STOCK LIBRARIES (Start the course for FREE!): https://payhip.com/b/pvsfL NOW JUST $49! // Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com…
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EP133: The State of Stock 2025 | Is Stock Music Licensing in 2025 Still a Thing?
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1:14:31“The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.” This is a quote by Mark Twain, but it could also be said by Stock Music, and the money made by putting your music up to online libraries like Pond5, Motion Array, AudioJungle…Actually, the demise of Stock Music has been declared pretty much since I started watching YouTube about…stock music licensi…
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EP132. How to Make Music Income in 2025 | And How NOT To...
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51:35So you say you want to make more money with music in 2025?But what are the best moves in 2025? What is working and not working?I’ve been spending most of 2025 so far looking back at music incomes in 2024, and also forward towards what I am doing in 2025 to make more music income.But what about you? What should YOU be doing to make more music income…
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EP131. The Secret Sauce to Find Sync Libraries to Pitch To | With Randy McGravey
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44:08In this week's "wicked" podcast, I speak with Randy McGravey, and we dig into what we have both found to be the absolute best way to find sync libraries to pitch music to and partner with.It's what you always want to know! Well, we think we really have the secret sauce!LINKS IN THIS VIDEO:https://www.randymcgraveymusic.com/https://www.youtube.com/@…
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EP130.How Much YOU Made in 2024 and How to Make Music Income in 2025! Music Income Science! 🤓
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1:16:10So one of the things that fascinates so much that I take time to keep doing videos…is the numbers.I like to share this whole big experiment which is: How much did I make in a given period from different things I kinda broke that down a few weeks ago.But I’m also interested in how others made music income in 2024.So today’s podcast will be about two…
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EP129. Is There Really ANY Good Deal in Music? Sync Reps vs. Music Libraries with Christian Hale
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1:18:29There has been a lot of hullaboo about the changes in the way Pond5, Motion Array, and Identifyy are paying the people who license their music through these places.As I was contemplating a sync licensing deal this week, I started comparing all licensing deals to each other. Sync deals, stock music library deals, other sites that offer you a split o…
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EP128. My Music Income Plan for 2025 | A Major Shift in Stock Music $$?
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1:13:36Change is inevitable, and this is especially true in the music business. In this video I talk about the changes in licensing and trends that I see that are changing my focus to make music income in 2025.NEW!! MAKE MUSIC INCOME GEAR: https://cre8iv.sellfy.store/Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/freeGET THE 2025 MUSIC LIBRARY DIRECTORY!Bu…
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EP127. My Music Licensing Income in 2024 | Things Have Changed! | Sync, Stock, Sheet Music, Content ID
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56:56So it’s been a very interesting year in music licensing, but things have definitely changed for me. Most for the better and I’m going to share the numbers with you today.NEW!! MAKE MUSIC INCOME GEAR: https://cre8iv.sellfy.store/Get FREE stuff at https://makemusicincome.com/freeFREE Updated EBOOK!: TOOLS YOUR NEED TO MAKE MUSIC INCOME V3https://payh…
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EP126. Licensing Thoughts & Free Tools for 2025 | Sync, Stock, Free Orchestral & Starter DAW
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39:49It’s that time again! Time for Make Music Income’s Annual (or Semi-Annual) Fireside Chat! And Time for FREE Info and Software Tips!Eric talks about the state of Sync, Stock, Other Music Income for 2025, AND gives out FREE info and gifts like Ol’ Santy himself. Plus lots of wisdom and ideas for making 2025 YOUR BEST MUSIC YEAR EVER!NEW!! MAKE MUSIC …
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BONUS: The Importance of Music Partners | Or How I Tracked 15 Amazing Country Songs in 2 Days
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48:51It was quite a week last week, but I ended up with 15 amazing songs for my partners in licensing and artists I work for.How? Why? and What? Well, let’s talk about tracking in Nashville and the IMPORTANCE of having the right music partners for SUCCESS in music.NEW!! MAKE MUSIC INCOME GEAR: https://cre8iv.sellfy.store/Get FREE stuff at https://makemu…
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EP125. The Very, Very, Very Long Game of Music | Including Sync Licensing, Artistry, and...Everything
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1:04:48Today I want to talk about the thing in music no one sees coming.I mean how long do I have to give this thing before it takes off, or makes me any real money, or pays my rent?Well, I have the answer for you. But you’re not going to like it.#musiclicensing #synclicensing #producers LINKS IN THIS VIDEO: To have your song tracked in a Tracking Session…
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EP124. Don’t Be So Precious! Make the Music, And Keep Moving Forward!
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48:04So I got an email that asked some telling questions. They mainly had to do with a reluctance with exclusivity in music licensing, but this subject is broader and applies to all for music makers, songwriters, composers, producers, etc.Why are you SO precious with your music?We want to hold on to our music so tightly and make sure it doesn’t get “sto…
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EP123. The MOST Important Thing in Music! It May Not Be What You Think!
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52:20So many times people get it twisted. Worrying about all the wrong things in pursuing a music career.Well today’s show is all about clearing that up.Today I get into some real TEACHING on the SINGLE MOST Important thing in having success in a music career.#musician #composer #musicproducer LINKS IN THIS VIDEO:BLACK FRIDAY SALE: 50% or more off Cours…
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EP122. It's BMI Day! A Shift in Sync? Black Friday Deals! Opportunities!
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53:20Oh my, we have so much to talk about today including an interesting shift for me in sync and stock, Black Friday deals you NEED to know about, a new placement on Netflix, and opportunities for every composer and producer.Let’s GO! LINKS IN THIS VIDEO: BLACK FRIDAY SALE: 50% or more off Courses! // SELL YOUR MUSIC ON NON-EXCLUSIVE LIBRARIES Just $49…
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EP121. Am I Wasting My Time? Are You? How to Do the DANG MUSIC!
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1:02:56Over the past two months I’ve been going through something of a renaissance in my musical and professional life.I suddenly and without seemingly any care, walked away from a teaching job I had been doing on the side for two and half years. The job brought security and insurance, and fulfilled a decade long desire to add teaching as an income stream…
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EP120. A Bewitching Sync Licensing Talk with Sonnet Simmons of 2Indie | Exclusivity, Sync Agents
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1:13:34Sell Your Music Direct to Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfL Get Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHFor this episode airing on Halloween, we have some very scaaaary sync licensing stories that may or may not have been told by a witch. Ok, so that’s not exactly true.They aren’t scary stories and aren’…
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EP119. Cassettes & Regrets for Such a Time as This | Plus Some Music Industry News Concerning Identifyy
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53:00Do you ever feel like you just made the wrong decisions in your music life through the years that have left you in a place now where you can’t succeed in music the way you want to?Today, I look back at my old music life, when I was taping and scraping by, and generally not in a successful place and thought I might never get to a place where I am no…
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EP118. Stock, Sync, Spotify, Sheet Music, Content ID? Strategies to Do it All Together!
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46:51Upload Your Music Direct to POND5 and More Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLGet Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHJust about every week, just about every video I put up, I get the same question in the chat, in the comments, in email…Can I put the songs I have on Pond5, or any other non-exclusive li…
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EP117. Start with Pond5 - Revisited! Pond5 Review and Online Course on Best Practices in 2025!
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58:22Upload Your Music Direct to POND5 and More Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLGet Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHIn this video, I want to revisit this video I made 3 years ago or so, as well as show you a little from the Stock Market course where I go over Pond5, how to become an author, and then …
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EP116. Pond5 Pays Out BIG With A.I. DataSet Earnings! How Much and Why? Music Income SCIENCE!
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52:09Upload Your Music Direct to Non-Exclusive Libraries: https://payhip.com/b/pvsfLGet Your Music to TV, Film, Ads, and Gaming: https://payhip.com/b/KtoqHI’m not going to bury the lead here: yesterday myself and likely hundreds if not thousands of music creators checked our Pond5 accounts and saw a HUGE deposit called Dataset Earnings.The Make Music In…
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EP115. Networking to Sync and More! With Marcus Manderson | PMC, Music Summit, Sync Pitches
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1:02:14So how do you Make Music Income?Well, you have to start by making music, and that will be part of today’s video.But you also have to get out there, get in touch with people, and get into things.Today’s guest is Marcus “Da Fingaz” Manderson!Get in touch and Follow him at:LINKEDIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dafingaz/INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram…
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EP114. Sync & Stock: It's All Music Licensing | Why You Should Do Both in 2024/2025
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41:28So there’s lots of ways you can license your music. On this channel we talk a lot about sync licensing to TV, film, advertising, and gaming, and micro-sync or stock (micro-sync is the cool word for it now wink) for YouTube, presentations and other uses.Now, many people think of being on TV and Film and Ads as more prestigious and bigger money, and …
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EP113. $2,000+ in PRO Sync Income...from STOCK?? What the What?
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49:27So with this last BMI check, like we all do, I was hoping for a higher check than the last. You know, to show that things are progressing with my sync career.Well, I looked at my business account and lo and behold it was $2600 HIGHER than it should have been.Checking the register I saw not one, but TWO checks for over $1000!What the what?—THE STOCK…
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EP112. A Change in Focus | How to Solve Music Life Problems
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58:24Almost everyone has some really good things going on. Sometimes TOO MANY good things. And it's easy to get lost in that. I've experienced this myself lately…and here's what I've had to do about it.Need someone to talk to about this? Email me at [email protected] ONE-ON-ONE COACHING FOR COMPOSERS AND PRODUCERS:Eric has been helping artists …
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EP111. Getting Music Placements with Michèle Vice-Maslin | LA Veteran Sync Producer, Songwriter
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50:54In this video we speak with Michèle Vice-Maslin, a longtime veteran in the LA Sync Industry or as she calls it "Music Placements." She is an Emmy Winning, #1 hit music producer/Music Arranger/Songwriter, Music Publisher who composes (both music & lyrics) and produces-arrangers for artists/films/television/ads/ promos/ games, etc. She has had numero…
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EP110. 🤖 Why I'm Letting AI Train Off My Stock Music (Let's Relax About This...)
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1:15:13You know lately I have given some real thought to the “will I let AI train off my music”, and we’re all being very careful and NOT signing the Motion Array or Envato terms. Not letting AudioSparx or anybody train off our precious music that is so original that no one (or thing) in the world could have thought of it.The truth is, I think we are bein…
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EP 109. From $$ to $$$$ in Sync PRO with "Da Fingaz" Marcus Manderson | How He Did It!
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1:11:38In this podcast we talk with Marcus "Da Fingaz" Manderson and talk about how he went from never making over $100 ever on a PRO check to making HIGH FOUR Figures in his last BMI Check.I ask all the questions, and he details what happened and his strategy and how he finds time to make music for sync.#synclicensing #composer #musician @dafingaz LINKS …
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EP 108. Is Stock Music/MicroSync Worth It in 2024?? Or Fruitless? Let’s look at some data…
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1:14:10Almost three years ago my channel blew up with a video called “Zero to $600 a Month with Stock Music Licensing.” Surely this is all over now right? No one can be making any money on this now with the advent of AI can they? Sync is the ONLY way to go to make money in licensing right?Well, let’s look at the data…#stockmusiclicensing #musiclicensing #…
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EP 107. How to Find and Contact Sync Music Libraries | Clips from the "Getting in Sync Course"
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54:14Eric shows clips from his “Getting in Sync” Course and talks about the EXACT way he got into his first two libraries.GET THE 2024 MUSIC DIRECTORY FROM SYNCMYMUSIC:https://www.syncmymusic.com/musicdirectoryMake sure to email Jesse after you buy and tell him Eric Copeland sent you! --THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! …
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EP 106. i'm changing things...(again)
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1:07:30I’m going to have to change thigns up to make my life and music work the way I need it to. Come listen and see if it helps you too. -- THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! (And How YOU Can Too!)Once I found out about sync licensing and that people were making music income, I began a systematic, focused plan to get my m…
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EP 105. 🎹 🖥️ What DAW Should I Switch To? Which One Would YOU Pick? Replacing Logic Pro AI 🤖
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1:11:43What DAW (or Digital Audio Workstation) would you choose if you had to switch DAWS?Not what DAW is BEST! What would your transition be? From Logic to Studio One? From FL to Logic? From Ableton to Pro Tools? (That would be weird) --THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! (And How YOU Can Too!)Once I found out about sync li…
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EP104. 💰 How Much Netflix Paid Me | May Showers Royalties | Logic Pro 11
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55:48In this week’s podcast I talk about how much Netflix paid out for a top of show, logo placement on the hit show Love Is Blind. Also other surprisingly good royalty reports, and...we need to talk about Logic Pro 11.--THE NEW COURSE "GETTING IN SYNC" IS HERE!How I Got My Music on TV! (And How YOU Can Too!)Once I found out about sync licensing and tha…
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EP103. Video Game Music Licensing with Steven Melin | $80,000 Freelancer Yearly Average?
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1:12:26In this episode we talk to Steven Melin of Video Game Music Alliance, who composes music exclusively for video games on all levels including independent, Steam, and console gaming.Did you know that the average yearly salary for FREELANCE Video Game Music Composers and Sound Designers is $80,000 per year? (Source: https://www.gamesoundcon.com/post/g…
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EP102. Surprising First Quarter Stock Numbers | BMI New Site | Deposit Photos
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49:04In Podcast 102 Eric talks about a surprising thing he is seeing in his stock music licensing numbers for 2024, BMI’s new websiute and app, and a slight but welcome change at Deposit Photos.LINKS DISCUSSED:MY TEACHING PRODUCTS: https://makemusicincome.com/learn/BMI: https://www.bmi.com/Find our more about The Ultimate Composers Mastermind! - https:/…
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EP101. Your Music vs. A.I. | What Can You Do? | Ideas to Help You Compete in the New World of Music and AI
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1:06:06Today I try and bring you some solace and relief to that sinking feeling that AI is going to replace or displace you in the world of music.We talk about why to stop listening to the media and doomsayers, how AI can actually help us in our music, why Stock music is certainly the low hanging fruit, why Sync may not be as affected, what I am doing to …
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EP100. Changes...with Stevie B | Composing, YouTube, Stock/AI, Sync
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1:02:46It's our 100th podcast episode, we are joined by Stevie B after an April Fools fake out!Change has to come and we explain these and other changes that are affecting what we do to make music and make music income.#musicproducer #composer #musician HEY PODCAST AUDIENCE!I'd love your thoughts about The Make Music Income Podcast. It's hard to know what…
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EP99. Music Income in the Church ⛪ | With Music Director Shane Jensen | Singer, Musician, Sound Jobs
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1:30:24You might be aware of music in the church, but did you know that there are solid jobs from full-time music director positions with benefits, to part-time paid players, singers, and sound engineers that are needed?In this deep diving interview, I talk with Shane Jensen who works as a Music Director for a 500 member church in the Las Vegas area. We t…
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EP98. A Different Way of Creating...Being in The Flow | News AI Does Dishes | 500 Songs Update
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52:46What if we said no to the pressure? What if we just completely surrendered to the creative flow?Could it work? Could this be the true way to beat AI, to create more?Let’s talk it through…. Soundtrack for this episode: Landscape of a Dream by John Eric Copeland. https://distrokid.com/hyperfollow/fromthemomentmusic/moving-forward --Introducing STREAM…
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Special Episode: Monetizing Your Music with the META Ads and Brand Strategies of Tom Dupree III | Facebook, Instagram, Spotify (Uncut Conversation)
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1:06:00In this deep interview with working musician and marketing expert Tom Dupree III, we dive into his recent changes towards his content, including how he now teaches about Facebook and Instagram Ads, Spotify Marquee and Showcase, Making PROFIT with Spotify and Streaming, Short Form Video Marketing, and Making Music with Brands.#facebookads #meta #…
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Special Episode. The Real Truth About SONGTRUST | What They Do & Don’t Do | Find More Music Royalties
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1:08:19I have been waiting what seems like forever to get some real information about Songtrust, a publishing administration company that I have heard a lot about, but most of what heard seemed like misinformation.Well, in this video we go directly to the source and speak to the Associate Director of Marketing for Songtrust, Renée Buchholtz. Not only do w…
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EP97. Composer, Organist, and Synthesist, Jameson Nathan Jones
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1:25:00What do you do when you are taught formally, play the organ at church, compose music. AND love synthesizers? Well, for Jameson Nathan Jones, you end up with a YouTube channel talking about it.And he’s kind of hilarious!Education is a sticky subject for some, maybe you. But in this interview we delve into how education helped Nathan become…Nathan, A…
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EP96. The Yay, The Nay, and the...Meh of Music Licensing & Music Income | Netflix, NFL, BMI, Identifyy
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50:56In music income, there’s good and there’s bad and there’s just stuff in between. Today I will share some nice wins, some poor results, and some stuff that’s just…the same. Plus how NOT to get lost in all the minutiae of music life.See the Netflix "Love is Blind" placement of "The Rest of My Life" here: !https://youtu.be/2kY5llWDitE?si=_lrbnQQ-INNrN…
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Special Episode: Talking Music Libraries with Art Munson ofMusicLibraryReport.com | Music Licensing
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1:00:36In this video we talk with Art Munson who developed and runs MusicLibraryReport.com, This is a web site that has been operating for over 15 years gathering and updating information about music libraries. Art has a rich history with music and the beginning of production music in Los Angeles and Nashville.#musiclicensing #musiclibrary #productionmusi…
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EP95. 💔 The Sad State of Creative Content Makers 🎵📷🎥 | The Real Problem
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55:02So right now we are in a “I Quit YouTube” phase with some rather big YouTubers quitting. This is not a video about that per se.I myself have seen and experienced some issues in keeping a music YouTube site going.And you’ll never guess what the biggest problem seems to be with MUSIC and creative YouTubers…Special thanks, best wishes, and watch the c…
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Special Episode: Sync Agent Mark Frieser Explains What a Sync Agent Does & How Sync Licensing REALLY Works
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1:05:49So, what does a full-time sync agent actually do? What do they look for? Who do they work with?In this revealing video, Mark Frieser of @syncsummit tells it like it is and what he does every day as a sync agent.#syncagent #synclicensing #musiclicensingLINKS IN THIS VIDEO:SYNC SUMMIT: https://syncsummit.com/FREE METADATA STYLE GUIDE: https://sync…
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EP94. My Music Income in 2023 | And How It Affects 2024 | Music Licensing, Publishing, Teaching, & Clients
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50:36You know how I always ask every guest on the show “How do you Make Music income?” Well, in today’s podcast I tell you how I made income last year. In many ways. 2023 was an affirming year and also a directional year for my music.Not to spoil the show, but I probably ended up making about as much in 2023 as I did in 2022. With basically the same job…
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EP93. Music Libraries VS. Direct Sync with Tamara Bubble | Sync Agents, Music Supervisors
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44:02THIS IS THE MAIN EVENT! In this corner…the way most online gurus suggest you license your music for TV and Film…the Master of Passive Placement…the Sometimes Your Song Is Never Heard But You Do It Anyway Because All You Gotta Do is Load It Up and Wait…Music Libraries! (ERIC COPELAND)And in this corner…the way artists and songwriters get their music…
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EP92. My AUDACIOUS Goals in 2024! 🔥 For MUCH More Music and Music Income! 💰
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1:20:18au·da·cious/ôˈdāSHəs/adjective1. showing a willingness to take surprisingly bold risks.So, it’s going to get REAL in 2024. I’m done fooling around. I’m done with part-timing it. I’m done with being done.Wait until you hear what I will be doing in 2024. It might just blow your mind. 🤯0:00 - Audacious! 6:48 - 500 Songs?? 14:57 - 25 Albums to Sync 25:…
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EP91. Andrew Southworth Talks Music Streaming Marketing Secrets and Success on Spotify, Apple & Pandora
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1:19:12In today's video we talk with Spotify Marketing guru Andrew Southworth about marketing your music to Spotify, Apple Music, Pandora, and more. We go WAY beyond just marketing thoughA GIFT FOR YOU: Take 50% off any level of The Stock Market Course, Where, Why, and How to Submit Your Music to Stock Music Libraries and Other Licensing Sites. Just enter…
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EP90. Make the Music You Love & Make Music Income | Why This is Important for Composers and Producers
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21:42It’s been the tag line of this channel for some time now.Make the music you love, and make music income.Well, I do exactly that and am taking steps to do it even more.And I think you can too. --Introducing STREAMS!Join our new community STREAMS for FREE at https://www.musicincomestreams.com/We bring together composers, producers, artists, beatmaker…
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