The Neurodiversity Podcast talks with leaders in the fields of psychology, education, and beyond, about positively impacting neurodivergent people. Our goal is to reframe differences that were once considered disabilities or disorders, promote awareness of this unique population, and improve the lives of neurodivergent and high-ability people.
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Join parenting coach and mom-in-the-trenches, Penny Williams, as she helps parents, caregivers, and educators harness the realization that we are all beautifully complex and marvelously imperfect. Each week she delivers insights and actionable strategies on parenting and educating neurodivergent kids — those with ADHD, autism, anxiety, learning disabilities... Her approach to decoding behavior while honoring neurodiversity, and parenting the individual child you have will provide you with th ...
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What does it mean to embody a communication perspective? To use communication as a lens? To take a communication perspective is to consider what we’re making and how we’re making it through our communication practices. This means we look at patterns, contexts, stories, relationships; and that we use curiosity, mindfulness, collaboration, and dialogue to create better social worlds for ourselves. I invite you to join me (Abbie) in conversation with a guest as we learn what it means to use a c ...
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On Neurodiversity in Relationships with Laurie Budlong-Morse | Relationships Series | Ep. 115
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Where in your relationships can you name the meaning you are making? Where can ask others to name the meaning they are making? … Laurie Budlong-Morse is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist and an AANE Certified Neurodiverse Couples Therapist with a private practice in Indianapolis; she also creates educational content and offers online services …
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A Guide to School Counseling In a Neurodiverse World
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In episode 240, Emily Kircher-Morris chats with Brandon Gernux, an elementary school counselor from Santa Ana, California, and the 2024 Orange County Elementary School Counselor of the Year. Emily and Brandon dive into the importance of neurodiversity-affirming support in schools, sharing insights on how schools are slowly evolving to meet the need…
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280: Fostering Resilience in the Age of Uncertainty, with Tovah Klein, Ph.D.
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Are you struggling to help your child navigate the uncertainties of today's world? In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I’m chatting with Tovah Klein, Ph.D., professor at Barnard College and director of the Center for Toddler Development, about fostering resilience in children during these challenging times. Dr. Klein emphasizes the importance o…
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On Curiosity, CMM & Cosmopolitan Communication with Barbara McKay | Relationships Series | Ep. 114
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What is "perceived oughtness"? How does it show up in our lives? How can we reflect on this force and make new choices? How can we embody curiosity to understand ourselves and others well? What is the relationship between “beliefs,” "meaning," "action," and "emotion"? How can we come to understand the complex dynamics that exist to find healing for…
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Autistic Voices: Bridging the Communication Gap
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Miscommunication between autistic and non-autistic individuals can lead to painful misunderstandings and strained relationships. In this episode, we talk to Jaime A. Heidel, author of 'What Did I Do Wrong? An Accessible Guide to Preventing Traumatic Misunderstandings Between You and Your Autistic Loved One.' Emily and Jaime discuss the common commu…
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279: You Might Also Like: In It: Raising Kids who Learn Differently, from Understood.org
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This episode is a special collaboration with the "In It" podcast from Understood.org, dedicated to families with children facing challenges like ADHD and dyslexia. We’re diving into a topic that many parents find both essential and perplexing — encouraging kids to care about personal hygiene. In It hosts, Gretchen Vierstra and Rachel Bozek, are joi…
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On School Inclusion with Gro Emmertsen Lund | Education Series | Ep. 113
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What are the tangible changes that you can be a part of making in your social worlds? … Gro Emmertsen Lund is an independent scholar, education specialist, author and researcher; she is a part of The Taos Institute, USA, serving as a Taos Associate and Faculty Advisor. She is also part of NO!SE (Network of Independent Scholars in Education) in Denm…
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Improving Math Education for Neurodivergent Learners
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On episode 238, Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Lindsay Kapek and Katie Tabari about the challenges neurodivergent students face in learning math. The conversation explores strategies for creating inclusive math classrooms that foster confidence and support for all students, regardless of their neurodivergence, and they talk about the importance of…
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278: Helping Kids on the Spectrum Transition to Adulthood, with Shannon Urquiola
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Navigating the transition to adulthood with your neurodivergent child can be overwhelming and fraught with uncertainties. In this episode of Beautifully Complex, my guest, Shannon Urquiola and I explore the critical aspects of preparing kids on the spectrum for adulthood, addressing common pain points like guardianship, financial planning, SSI, and…
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On Differentiation, Dysregulation & Boundaries with Stephanie Higgs | Education Series | Ep. 112
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How can we celebrate our own individuality (and the individuality of others) by being honest about our needs, finding unique ways to meet them, and saying out loud the things we appreciate about each other? How can we celebrate children's individuality in school settings and beyond? What happens when we learn, not only how to tell our own story, bu…
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Neurodivergence and The Double Empathy Problem
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On episode 237, Emily Kircher-Morris welcomes Tracy Turner-Bumberry, an expert in play therapy, and a former school counselor, to discuss the concept of double empathy, the importance of understanding and supporting neurodivergent children, and the need for empathy and acceptance in therapy. They also explore the evolution of social skills, and the…
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277: Redefining ADHD for Neurodivergent Kids, with Elly Both
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Are you struggling to talk to your child about their ADHD diagnosis or seeking ways to reframe it positively? In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I host an empowering conversation with Elly Both about her inspiring new children's book on ADHD. Elly shares her personal journey of being diagnosed later in life and how that revelation transformed …
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On Inclusive Excellence in Education with Emily Rutter | Education Series | Ep. 111
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Where can you find paths to engagement? How can you redefine excellence for yourself? What would it look like for you to embrace curiosity in your own life and stories? ... Emily Ruth Rutter is Professor of English, Associate Dean of the Honors College, and affiliate faculty in Women’s, Gender, and African American Studies at Ball State University.…
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The Gifted Experience: Reframing Emotional Intensity
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On episode 236, Emily Kircher-Morris and Christine Fonseca discuss emotional intensity in gifted students. They explore the reasons behind this intensity, and how it relates to the giftedness experience. They touch on the concept of overexcitabilities and how they manifest in gifted individuals. Also, they emphasize the importance of understanding …
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276: Executive Function Rundown, with Seth Perler, M.Ed.
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Feeling frustrated by your child's disorganization, falling grades, and struggles with time management? Tune in to this episode of Beautifully Complex, where Seth Perler, M.Ed. and I explore the crucial role of executive function skills in your child or teen's life. Seth likens these skills to learning guitar chords — they're not innate, but they c…
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On Research, Storytelling & Collective Trauma with Spozhmay Oriya | Education Series | Ep. 110
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How can research help us change the stories we tell about ourselves, our mental health, and our shared trauma? … Spozhmay Oriya is a PhD candidate in the Educational Psychology program with focus on collective trauma, faculty of Education, Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, Canada. She has BA in psychology and MA in Education. She was assistant …
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The Body-Brain Connection: Somatic Strategies for Well-Being
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On episode 235, Emily Kircher-Morris talks with somatic-centered psychotherapist Mary Martin about the benefits of somatic therapy for neurodivergent people. They discuss how this body-based approach complements traditional talk therapy by focusing on the body-brain connection, and about the importance of interoception and co-regulation. They descr…
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275: Starting Scared, with Chrysty Lockhart
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Are you tired of letting fear hold you back? The key to moving beyond that is turning what you view as failure into stepping stones to success. And you can teach your kids the same. In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I’m joined by Chrysty Lockhart, who shares her transformative journey from fearful to learning to push forward despite the fear.…
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On Giftedness, Overexcitabilities, and Positive Disintegration with Chris Wells and Emma Nicholson | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 109
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Please be aware that this conversation contains discussion of suicide, addiction, and mental illness. ... What resonates with you from the Theory of Positive Disintegration? How can we start to challenge the framework we have about cognition and emotion? How might we use TPD and CMM to equip ourselves to lean into the challenge of deconstructing an…
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274 Looking at Behavior Both Inside and Out, with Gabriele Nicolet, MA, CCC-SLP
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Do you find it challenging to stay calm and mindful when your child is having a tough time in public? Gabriele Nicolet and I explore understanding kid’s behavior from both behavioral and neurophysiological perspectives. Gabriele, a seasoned speech therapist and parent coach, shares invaluable insights into decoding what behaviors signify about a ki…
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On Better Indigenous Representation with Jessica Engelking | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 108
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What examples of indigenous representation have you encountered? For both indigenous and non-indigenous people, how can you seek out more stories told by indigenous people about indigenous experiences? ... Jessica Engelking (she/her) is a descendant of the White Earth Band of Ojibwe. She has a bachelor’s degree in Philosophy from the University of …
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Do You Hear What I Hear: Exploring Auditory Processing Differences
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On episode 234, Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Austina De Bonte about auditory processing differences. They discuss how these differences can often be mistaken for attention issues or social difficulties, and what it all means for everyday life. Dr. De Bonte shares some methodologies used for testing, accommodations that are available, and ground-…
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273: Getting Stuck in a Loop with Sarah Wayland, Ph.D.
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Have you ever felt helpless as your child gets stuck in repetitive behaviors or meltdowns, leaving you wondering how to help them break free? In this episode of Beautifully Complex, I sit down with Sarah Wayland, Ph.D., to delve into the struggles and complexities faced by parents and kids, teens, and young adults when dealing with looped behaviors…
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On Disability Justice & Changing Stories with Hannah Soyer | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 107
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How did you (or did you not) see yourself represented in stories growing up and how did that shape your understanding of yourself? How has your story changed? ... Hannah Soyer is a queer disabled writer living in the Midwest. She has written for nationally acclaimed publications such as The Sun Magazine, Bustle, and Cosmopolitan and is the editor o…
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The Tricky Relationship Between Addiction and Neurodiversity
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On episode 233, Emily Kircher-Morris is joined by Patrick Casale, a mental health clinician specializing in addictions. The conversation covers a lot of ground, including neurodiversity-affirming practices, and the intersectionality of addiction and neurodivergence. They discuss the importance of creating a neurodivergent affirming environment thro…
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272: What Does Anger Tell Us?, with Dr. Lori Desautels
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Do you often find yourself misinterpreting anger in your neurodivergent child, escalating situations unintentionally? Join me and Dr. Lori Desautels as we dive deep into understanding anger and what it truly signifies. Dr. Desautels, an expert in applied educational neuroscience, explains that anger often stems from a dysregulated nervous system, f…
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On Creating Neurodiverse Affirming Social Worlds with Emily Kircher-Morris | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 106
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How can you practice both authenticity and empathy as you interact with others? How can you create a “Neurodiverse Affirming” space in your social worlds? ... Emily Kircher-Morris, M.A., M.Ed., LPC, inspired by her own experiences as a neurodivergent person, is dedicated to destigmatizing neurodiversity and supporting neurodivergent people of all a…
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2E Or Not 2E: The Nuts and Bolts of Twice-Exceptionality
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Many brilliant young people experience the dichotomy of disability layered on top of their intelligence. It’s called twice-exceptionality, or 2e for short. What are the common misconceptions about twice-exceptional individuals? How do traditional models fall short when identifying the learning disabilities of our brightest kids? And why is early re…
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On Disability, Storytelling & Collaborative Reimagination with Rebekah Taussig | Unheard Stories Series | Ep. 105
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How can we find the courage to tell our stories, knowing that it matters for us to tell them? What is the story that you want to tell about yourself? How is it different from the story the world is telling you? What is your current understanding of disability? How do you relate to those who are disabled? How can we embrace the experience of having …
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What MIT and Harvard Science Says About Neurodiversity
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Today, Emily Kircher-Morris talks with Dr. Jeff Karp. Jeff is a professor at Harvard and MIT, a biotech entrepreneur, and an ADHD-er. They talk about Jeff's program, LIT, or Life Ignition Tools, which is a set of strategies to energize the brain, spark ideas, and ignite action. Emily and Jeff talk about metacognition and the transformative impact i…
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