Analysing vital music business topics in detail, as they emerge: Joe Sparrow breaks down important stories with expert guests in about 25 minutes. It'll keep you on the cutting edge, and it'll take about the same time as making and eating a good sandwich! (We recommend doing both simultaneously for maximum deliciousness.) 🌍 Music Ally provides analysis and context for the global music business: musically.com Ⓜ️ Music Ally's industry-leading subscription service: https://musically.com/subscri ...
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Retraining for new roles in the music industry – with Music Ally COO Patrick Ross
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Ep. 163: The jobs market in the music industry is changing fast: it's not just artists who are decoupling from the traditional industry businesses, it's the industry workers too. Not only have various major players laid off significant percentages of their workforce, but some artists and teams are seeking smaller, nimbler companies to do niche task…
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Music-tech today and tomorrow: Stuart Dredge gets past the hype, gets to grips with Music AI, and gets excited about music fintech, music ecotech, and music healthtech
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Ep. 162: It's always a Very Special Episode when Music Ally's Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge, joins the Focus podcast, and lo, Stu chats to Joe Sparrow in depth about AI (of course!), music fintech, music ecotech, music healthcare tech and more! This episode is part of Music Ally's annual music-tech Insight Report, available to Music Ally subscribe…
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Selling direct-to-fan and making money even when you're an emerging artist: Mag Rodriguez of D2C platform Even talks about the future of artist commerce
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Ep. 161: Direct to Consumer is a model that most artists, of all sizes, are now prioritising. But which type of artist does this approach work – and not work – for? Mag Rodriguez, CEO/founder of D2C platform Even – which has the tagline "Buy The Art From The Artist" – talks to Music Ally's Editor Joe Sparrow about how artists can use this business …
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Marketing Focus: Lainey Wilson, The Cardigans, and Peggy Gou's recent campaigns analysed
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Ep. 160: A marketing-focused episode – Sarah Seukeran analyses three recent notable campaigns and activations from Lainey Wilson, The Cardigans, and Peggy Gou. Featured are campaigns that combine local weather data with music streaming, showcase a good way of getting catalogue to connect with The Kids on TikTok, and encourage fans to design localis…
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Making money as a local venue in 2024: Dhruv Chopra, founder of Brooklyn venue Elsewhere, talks memberships, building community, and how Gen Z gig-goers want more than cheap beer
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Ep. 159: Dhruv Chopra, co-founder/CEO of Brooklyn venue Elsewhere, joins Joe Sparrow to talk about finding new ways of running local independent venues. Dhruv and Elsewhere are reaching around to find a new business model in a new gig-going world. Today, music is consumed, created, performed, played, discovered, experienced and valued differently –…
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Dirty Hit's Jamie Oborne on managing The 1975, trusting your artists' instincts, and how the power of cringe helps to choose what not to do
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Ep. 158: When Jamie Oborne's career as a musician ended, he decided that the second best thing was to be an artist manager. He also decided that he'd stay independent, write contracts different to the one's he'd signed, and work closely with his artists. Twenty years on, Oborne's approach seems to have worked well enough: he runs management company…
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Livestreaming in 2024: what do artists and fans want from it now? And what about superfans? On Air CEO Jakub Krampl explains
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Ep 157: Cast your mind back to 2020, when public spaces were shut down and the world suddenly felt insular and closed. Live-streaming became wildly popular overnight – in fact this podcast began in these circumstances – and many apps and platforms appeared and disappeared to feed the need for watching live events from our homes. A mere four years l…
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Super-serving superfans – Jacquelle Horton of Fave on superfandom and superfan strategies for artists of all sizes
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Ep 156: Superfandom, superfandom, superfandom. Unless you’ve been living on the moon for the last year, you’ll not have been able to avoid the latest obsession of pretty much anyone working in the music industry. We chatted to Jacquelle Horton, CEO/Founder of superfan platform Fave, about the nature of superfandom – and we also dug into how to nurt…
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The Nations: from YouTube remixes to modern music radio – founder Andre Benz explains how he tries to meet the needs of young music consumers
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Ep. 155: Andre Benz founded The Nations when he was in high school. What began as a Youtube channel uploading dance music remixes has transformed into a media conglomerate with a record label and various genre-focused channels. In the latest episode of the Music Ally Focus podcast, he explains the challenges of building a multi-faceted ecosystem th…
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"This isn't just another #MeToo issue... it's way bigger than that." Sexual violence, NDAs, and the music industry – with Caroline Heldman, PhD and Samantha Maloney of the Sound Off Coalition
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Content warning: this episode discusses sexual abuse. Ep. 154: Caroline Heldman Ph.D and Samantha Maloney are co-founders of the Sound Off Coalition, which recently published a report that called out “the scathing history and financial impact of decades of sexual abuse and coverups in the music industry”. In the report, publicly-available informati…
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"The music festival industry is suffering and there is something fundamentally wrong at its heart" – so what can be done to revive it?
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Episode 153: What's the health of the music festival ecosystem like? Not great, says Nick Morgan, CEO of UK festival company The Fair. Nick, who is also vice chair of the UK’s Association of Independent Festivals (AIF), and his colleague Yasmin Galletti join Music Ally's editor Joe Sparrow and discuss the pressures festivals are under, in an enviro…
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"We're not just creating musicians; we're shaping well-rounded individuals" – Young Voices CEO Ben Lewis and violinist Anna Phoebe on the impact of choir singing on children
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Episode 152: Young Voices arranges huge, arena-sized, choir performances for school children, and we were joined by Ben Lewis, CEO of Young Voices, and Anna Phoebe, violinist who performs with Young Voices (and is on the Board at The Ivors Academy.) We spoke about the importance of music at the grassroots level, and encouraging children to sing and…
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"The music industry's approach to mental health was disastrous”
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Episode 151: We're joined by music industry psychologist and therapist Anne Löhr to get a snapshot of the state of mental health within the music industry, and her interpretation of how well the industry has supported the mental health of the people in it. SPOILER: uh-oh, it’s not been great – but it’s getting better. The music industry has, accord…
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How to make disabled people’s access to live events environmentally sustainable – with Suzanne Bull, founder of Attitude is Everything & Dr Teresa Moore, Director at A Greener Future
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Episode 150(!): Suzanne Bull, founder of Attitude is Everything – which connects disabled people with music and live event industries to improve access – and Dr Teresa Moore, Director at A Greener Future – which helps organisations, events, festivals and venues be more environmentally sustainable – join Music Ally's editor Joe Sparrow. They spoke a…
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Local, independent artists want to play gigs – but it's increasingly hard to make money or find a venue. Sofar Sounds CEO Jim Lucchese, talks about the economics of live music – and what should change
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Ep 149: Sofar Sounds CEO Jim Lucchese joins Music Ally editor Joe Sparrow to talk about the current economics of live music and its impact on local, independent artists. Live music is a hard business at the best of times, but for smaller and emerging artists, it can be brutally tough. A good number of artists now get their start playing Sofar Sound…
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Marketing music to Gen Z: hyper-authentic, and always online – how do you connect with this elusive audience? Keturah Cummings of Forward Slash explains
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Ep 148: Gen Z music fans are able to immediately sense when an artist’s communications with fans feel inauthentic. But marketing has in its nature an element of inauthenticity – so how do you maintain a feeling of authenticity when marketing to this young, online-only generation? And how can artists and teams market effectively directly to these yo…
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The biggest questions that music streaming platforms face in 2024 – Music Ally's Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge, answers them.
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Ep. 147: Stuart Dredge, Music Ally’s Head of Insight, joins Editor Joe Sparrow to answer some of the biggest and most complex questions in the DSP space in 2024. This podcast is aligned with Music Ally’s new quarterly report and the Big Questions they chat about include: • Who are the winners and losers from artist-centric payment systems – and wil…
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How do people search for music – and what do they really want in their results?
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Ep. 146: In this episode we ask: how do people search for music today and what do people really want in their results? We welcome Einar Helde, AIMS API co-founder and CCO, to the Focus podcast to answer that question, as well as to explain how technology is allowing people to search in novel and nuanced ways – and what that means for people who mak…
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How will AI-generated music be used in virtual spaces like metaverses and video games? And do we lose a communal experience if we all hear different music? Verses' Sean Lee & Kyungtae Kim explain.
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Ep 145: Joe Sparrow is joined by Sean Lee, CEO/co-founder and Kyungtae Kim, co-founder and Audio & AI Specialist, of Verses, an AI music platform that powers music generation in virtual spaces. We wanted to talk about the use of dynamic AI-created music in the metaverse, and how that music then connects to virtual items. Essentially: where three of…
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Should music streaming platforms charge to store music? Con Raso of Tuned Global explains the potential impacts on indie and major rightsholders.
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Ep. 144: Tuned Global's CEO Con Raso joins Joe Sparrow to talk about something that sounds a bit intangible and distant: the cost of storing all the music that gets streamed. If it’s essentially free for owners of huge catalogues of music to upload their files to someone else’s server, then they will – and smaller rightsholders like DIY artists and…
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Marie Clausen, Merlin's Managing Board Director, on mentoring women to help them rise to senior positions in the music industry
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Ep 143: Marie Clausen worked hard to rise to a senior position in the music industry, only to find that she was often the only woman in the room. So she’s now driven to change that – and she explains to Joe Sparrow how she initiated Merlin’s Engage mentorship program, designed to boost the representation of women in the top ranks of the music indus…
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The enshittification of music – Cory Doctorow explains how a monopolistic music industry's rush to claw back value might also kill it. PLUS! An exclusive extract from Cory's new audiobook
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Ep 142: Cory Docorow is a highly regarded sci-fi author, activist and journalist who is in favour of the liberalisation and modernisation of copyright laws. He recently coined the concept of "enshittification", which is when monopolistic digital platforms offer increasingly worse services to continue making money... and then they die. We talk about…
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How can you unlock more value from music catalogues using AI? Harmix CTO Dmytro Lopushanskyy explains how this AI tech works – and how artists should be able to opt music out of AI model training
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Ep 141: Dmytro Lopushanskyy, CTO of AI-powered song analysis and discovery tool Harmix, joins Joe to explain how tools like his actually work, and how they can find overlooked songs that are buried deep in catalogues. Dmytro also talks about what life in the music industry may be like when we have useful AI assistants, and how artists and rightshol…
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Will this idea disrupt the record label model? Sherry Saeedi says that her company Verswire – “a venture capital model alternative for signing musicians” – is the future of music. We ask how and why.
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Ep. 140: Joe is joined by Sherry Saeedi, founder & CEO of Verswire. Sherry says that Verswire is a new alternative to record labels – or “a venture capital model alternative for signing musicians” as she puts it. We ask her why she believes it is “the future of music” and Sherry talks with the passion and language of a tech founder. She thinks that…
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What's it like to manage the Black Eyed Peas? Co-manager Rachel Strassberger explains the challenges of managing a household name artist, and how managers will need to change in the coming years
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Ep. 139: The Black Eyed Peas have sold an estimated 80 million records, are one of only a handful of artists to have simultaneously held the number-one and number-two spots on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, and have headlined the Super Bowl half-time show. We were very happy to talk to Rachel Strassberger, one third of the Black Eyed Peas' management…
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What next for song lyrics? From autonomous cars to AI chats, we discuss lyrics' future with Darryl Ballantyne of LyricFind
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Ep. 138: Lyrics are now everywhere - in our streaming apps, on short form social media, and in the now ubiquitous lyric video. So how might lyrics be used in the future in ways we may not have thought of? Joe Sparrow is joined by Darryl Ballantyne, founder & CEO of LyricFind, one of the oldest companies to license lyrics on behalf of rightsholders …
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Gender representation in the music industry, and how to undertake a "total restructure" – with Marie Fol, of the Keychange initiative
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Ep. 137: Marie Fol, Lead of the Keychange initiative, joins Music Ally’s Editor Joe Sparrow and they takes stock of gender representation in the music industry in 2024. Keychange is a global network and movement with a wide ranging remit to works towards what it calls “a total restructure of the music industry in reaching full gender equality.” Joe…
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AI and music marketing – how will artificial intelligence help marketers reach new fans and grow audiences? Music tech expert Virginie Berger makes some predictions...
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Ep. 136: AI is promising fundamental changes to the business of music and its creation. But what about the part where music is connected to the fans? Virginie Berger is a long-established music-tech industry expert and like many people working in innovative areas of the music industry, she’s been doing deep research into the role AI will play now, …
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YouTube's Artist & Label Development team for Europe, Middle East & Africa: what does it do, and how do they choose which artists to support? YouTube's Nur Ozdamar explains all.
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Ep. 135: YouTube's Nur Ozdamar joins Music Ally's editor Joe Sparrow to explain how her Artist & Label Development team for Europe, Middle East & Africa (EMEA) supports the careers of artists and its label partners. She describes the help that they provide, how they choose which emerging artists they eventually partner with – and how her team consi…
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Lior Tibon, co-founder of Duetti, and former COO of TIDAL, talks artist-centric payment systems and Duetti's music financing platform
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Ep. 134: Lior Tibon is former COO of TIDAL, and now co-founder of music financing platform Duetti, which aims to let smaller and mid-range artists sell part or all of their catalogue. He’s got experience in both the investment and streaming sides of the industry and so we talk about two things that are distantly, yet directly, connected: the recent…
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Licensed music: what YouTubers and TikTokers really need, according to Lickd's Paul Sampson (Plus: will generative AI music take a slice out of his business?)
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Ep. 133: we’re joined by Paul Sampson, CEO and founder of Lickd, the licensing startup that supplies music to creators on YouTube and other platforms. We seem to be shifting into an era where a new and widespread use of music is emerging – where music is a component of a wider experience: for instance in the background of short/long videos, live st…
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Making vinyl records with 85% lower energy consumption – we get hands on with Sonopress's new EcoRecord
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Ep. 132: Making vinyl records requires a lot of heat and energy, and uses plastics that are bad for the environment. But vinyl records are an old technology - so how might a modern record be made? Sven Deutschmann is Managing Director of Sonopress, a company that makes vinyl records and other physical media. He showed Music Ally’s Editor Joe Sparro…
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IP Lawyer Eliane Ellbogen answers our questions on how copyright laws will apply to AI-generated music – and the human artists whose music it sounds like.
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Ep 131: We have been puzzling over the impact of AI-generated music and how it will align with the laws that have made the music business, well, the music business. Eliane Ellbogen is an intellectual property lawyer at Fasken law firm in Montreal, and has spoken at a number of conferences about the legal implications that accompany AI Music. She jo…
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“It’s common to see fraud between 20-60% of all streams on multiple distributors” – Beatdapp's Andrew Batey and Morgan Hayduk talk streaming fraud
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Ep. 130: Andrew Batey and Morgan Hayduk are both co-CEOs & co-founders of Beatdapp, a platform which processes huge quantities of data to detect streaming fraud for clients like labels and streaming platforms. Editor Joe Sparrow welcomes them back to the podcast to update us on the state of streaming fraud – and they have some truly shocking statis…
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Dan Stein (AKA DJ Fresh) and Declan McGlynn of AI-powered platform Voice Swap on why producers and artists want to change their vocals to sound like another singer’s voice
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Ep. 129: Dan Stein, AKA DJ Fresh, and Declan McGlynn are co-founders of Voice-Swap, the AI-powered service that, as the name suggests, allows you to swap your singing voice for that of one of their chart-topping singers’ voices. They chat to Music Ally’s Editor Joe Sparrow about why they think producers, artists and writers will want to use AI to t…
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The MLC's CEO Kris Ahrend on mechanical licensing in 2023, why artists are so eager for data transparency , and the future of royalties for songwriters
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Ep. 128: We’re joined by Kris Ahrend, CEO of the Mechanical Licensing Collective. He gives us an overview of the state of mechanical licensing in 2023, the big issues from the MLC’s perspective, and the changes he’d like to see happen. He also talks about data transparency, what he thinks artists and songwriters want (and what the MLC are doing to …
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AI & the music business: Stuart Dredge breaks down the ambitions, possibilities – plus the ethical & legal issues – that AI music brings to the music business
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Ep. 127: In this special episode, Music Ally’s Head of Insight, Stuart Dredge talks to our Editor Joe Sparrow, and focuses squarely on AI and music in 2023 – a topic that has caused so much excitement, confusion, innovation, and concern all at once. Stuart breaks down the ambitions and possibilities – as well as the ethical and legal issues – that …
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“I dream of a time when I can turn up at a venue and not need to call them first” – musician Elizabeth J. Birch & Youth Music CEO Matt Griffiths talk about the experiences of disabled people in music
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Ep 126: in this episode Editor Joe Sparrow is joined by musician and music education facilitator Elizabeth J. Birch, and the CEO of UK charity Youth Music Matt Griffiths. They join us to talk about the experiences of disabled musicians in the UK music industry – and the work done by Elizabeth and Youth Music to improve it. Elizabeth is a champion o…
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“We drove 50% of Nicki Minaj’s sales in 30 minutes” – Stationhead’s co-founders Murray Levison and Ryan Star on pivoting to being a superfan-centric community audio platform
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Ep 125: In this episode Stationhead co-founders, Murray Levison and Ryan Star speak to Editor Joe Sparrow about the platform’s role as a gathering place for superfans, and what fans are seeking in a platform that mixes music, community and commerce. Superfans are well know for their all-encompassing support of an artist, and their desire to form a …
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Streaming fraud whack-a-mole: how do music distributors spot – and stop – fraud on music streaming platforms? Christine Barnum, CD Baby’s Chief Revenue Officer, explains.
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Ep. 124: in this episode we’re joined by Christine Barnum, CD Baby’s Chief Revenue Officer – we’re talking about music streaming fraud, how the company tries to spot it, and what the fraudsters are doing to try to avoid being detected. Christine’s job is a form of fraud whack-a-mole: trying to spot suspicious streaming activity before paying rights…
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"Small venues are places where magic happens" – Cat Henry, executive director of the US-based nonprofit Live Music Society on the challenges that small venues face in 2023
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Ep. 123: Music Ally’s Editor Joe Sparrow chats to Cat Henry, executive director of the US-based nonprofit philanthropic organisation Live Music Society. Cat talks about the society’s mission, which it describes as “to recognise and protect small venues and listening rooms across the United States so that live music can remain accessible to all.” Sm…
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"Mass adoption of generative music will be via content creators" – Alex Mubert talks about how generative AI music platforms – like his own – will change music-making, and the concept of music itself
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Ep 122: Alex Mubert, founder of the Mubert AI generative music platform talks to Editor Joe Sparrow about using AI to make music, the impact creative musical AI will have on rightsholders, and whether we will have to redefine what music itself is – in an era where infinitely-long pieces of music can be tailor-made for each listener. Most of us have…
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Classical music on TikTok – and how non-pop music is reaching a new audience, with TikTok's Darina Connolly, Head of Artist & Label Partnerships, and Label Partnerships Manager Lisa Skeppner
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Ep. 121: We speak to two people from TikTok who have helped turn classical music into viral content. TikTok has captured the attention of people in every area of the music industry, who now look to the short-video app for A&R, marketing, music discovery, audience-building and fan-nurturing. Darina Connolly, Head of Artist & Label Partnerships, talk…
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The excessive pressures placed on artists – and how to fix it: with Grammy and Juno-nominated artist manager Piers Henwood
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Ep 120: We're joined by Piers Henwood, a Grammy and Juno-nominated artist manager and musician. Artists today are under increasing pressure to do, well, lots of stuff: write, record and release music, create TikToks, collaborate, communicate with fans, go on tours, and so much more. A while ago, Piers wrote a guest post on Music Ally about “the imp…
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Should music streaming be treated like radio? And what does it mean if it is? Expert analysis from Stuart Dredge, Music Ally's Head of Insight, who explores the legal and philosophical consequences
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Ep 119: Every time our Head of Insight appears on the podcast, people say how useful they find his analysis – so we're bringing Stuart Dredge back again to answer a thorny question: “is music streaming like radio?”. Stuart explains why this simple-sounding question is actually quite complex and how it could raise a number of fundamental legal issue…
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Dequency CEO Keatly Haldeman explains what he thinks the long term impact of web3, crypto, and blockchain tech will be on the music business now that the hype has moved on
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Ep. 118: In the latest Focus podcast episode we’re joined by Keatly Haldeman of the blockchain music sync licensing platform Dequency. Attention has moved away from web3 tech and shifted via the metaverse to AI; so we thought it was time to check in and see how web3 tech has progressed away from the pressure of all that hype. Keatly still thinks th…
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David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artists Coalition, on venues charging commission on merch sales, and supporting emerging artists with their Step Up funding
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Ep 117: We’re joined by David Martin, CEO of the Featured Artists Coalition (FAC) – the UK trade body representing the specific rights and interests of music artists. We’re talking about two of the key needs that emerging artists have: that is to say – a guiding hand at the right time, and making money from merch. Artists have become increasingly v…
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Making music events and festivals more green and sustainable – with Claire O’Neill, CEO and cofounder of A Greener Future
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Ep 116: Music Ally Editor Joe Sparrow is joined by A Greener Future CEO and cofounder Claire O’Neill. AGF created the world’s first event sustainability standards and now offers consultancy, training, certification and membership to the events industry. We talk to her about how live events can become greener and more sustainable – and how there’s a…
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"AI is the most consequential tool the music industry could use – and one that could solve a number of its biggest challenges": Cliff Fluet talks AI and the music industry
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Ep. 115: We’re joined by Cliff Fluet – someone who has worked with, or advised, music-related AI platforms for a decade. He talks to Music Ally Editor Joe Sparrow about the bigger-picture possibilities and repercussions that AI could have on the music industry – he calls it "the most consequential tool the music industry could use" and one that "co…
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How education is meeting the needs of the music industry in west Africa – with The Music Business Academy for Africa
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Ep. 114: In this special episode we’re checking in on The Music Business Academy (MBA) for Africa – a training program geared towards developing the next generation of music industry executives in Africa. It’s developed by Creative Industries Initiative For Africa in partnership with Music Ally and Dr. Carlos Chirinos of the Music Business Departme…
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