Episode 28: Dr. Howard Lipp and Ena Vie - Plant Medicine | Integration | Community | Metaphysical Humanistic Science and Indigenous Science

Curious to Serious

In this episode, I talk with Dr. Howard Lipp and Ena Vie.

Dr. Howard Lipp and Ena Vie have been working as underground facilitators of plant medicine for several years. In our conversation, they speak about how they were called to plant medicine and found each other through music.

We also talk about opening up about facilitating plant medicine ceremonies and the challenge and importance of it.

Ena shares her experiences from studying Indigenous Science at Naropa University and how walking the Red Road shapes her plant medicine work now. Dr. Howard Lipp discusses the value of exploring his experiences in facilitation during his PhD program in Metaphysical Humanistic Science.

We also cover topics of integration, community, and the sentient role of plants. Finally, Howard and Ena reflect on their future in the psychedelic field as continuing to provide integrative support for others.

Time Stamps:

(04:11) How Howard was called to plant medicine, found his way to Ena through music, and introduced Ena to plant medicine

(06:18) How Ena’s experience with walking the Red Road and plant medicine provided her an opportunity for rebirth and a sense of peace after leaving the structured framework of religion

(20:01) The essential role of integration in bringing the Devine moments of psychedelic experiences into everyday life

(35:21) Coming out about underground ceremonial facilitation - why now and why is it important to Howard and Ena

(46:06) Howard and Ena’s website, book, and podcast

(49:55) Community and the need for connection as a basis for integration

(01:02:03) The sentient nature of plants to teach us

(01:16:15) Ena’s education at Naropa University, earning a Master’s Degree in Indigenous Science, and learning from indigenous elders in France while walking the Red Road

(01:21:03) Howard’s PhD in Metaphysical Humanistic Science - how this unique program allowed him to integrate his experiences with plant medicine facilitation with academic inquiry

(01:28:57) Howard and Ena’s future in continuing ongoing integrative support for other facilitators and participants in the psychedelic field

(01:35:39) Where to find Howard and Ena’s music

(01:37:18) Last piece of advice - breath through the experience and recognize how each experience is a square of a mosaic that informs every other experience

Links:

Website: https://enaandhoward.com/

Contact Form: https://enaandhoward.com/contact/

Music links: https://enaandhoward.com/music/

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@EnaandHoward

Facebook: facebook.com/enaandhoward

Instagram: instagram.com/enaandhoward

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Music by: ht