Exploring the Deep End of Consciousness and Contact Experiences with Dr. Michael Masters

Dreamland: The Edge of the World

In this episode, guest host Kelly Chase dives into the deep end of the conversation around consciousness and contact experiences with Dr. Michael P. Masters. Michael Masters is a professor of Biological Anthropology at Montana Tech. He is also the author of what are widely considered to be two of the defining books on the Extratempestrial Hypothesis, Identified Flying Objects: A Multidisciplinary Scientific Approach to the UFO Phenomenon and The Extratempestrial Model. And last year he also published a fiction book on the topic entitled Revelation: The Future Human Past.

In this wide-ranging conversation Dr. Masters talks about the childhood experiences that inform his work today, the high strangeness involved in doing work in the field of ufology, what he has learned from his own anomalous contact experiences, and much more.

Note from Kelly:
Through the course of this interview, Mike and Kelly referred back several times to an anomalous contact experience that he had at the International UFO Conference in Arizona back in 2022. If you haven’t heard that full story before and are curious to hear more of the details, I’ll be dropping Mike’s full talk from the Inquire Anomalous conference from this last December where he spoke publicly about that event for the first time on my podcast, The UFO Rabbit Hole. A special thanks to Jay Christopher King for making that possible.

However, you definitely don’t need to have heard that talk to follow along with this episode, so don’t let that hold you up. It’s just a fun bonus if you want to hear more.

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