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013 | 知识和创作不通过X传播 Deconstructing the Muse Myth
Manage episode 344259429 series 3324279
这是一期不合时宜和疲惫娇娃的串台节目,也是一场女生宿舍的四人夜谈。2012年,蔡依林就已经在《大艺术家》的歌词里劝女性不要被“缪斯”和“艺术家”的关系蓝本所迷惑、而失去自己的主体性;然而回望这十年里我们自己和身边朋友所经历的苦恼,不得不说蔡依林算是白唱了,但是人文社科的书不能白读。这期节目,我们试着从流行文化的角度拆解“缪斯”和“孤独的艺术家”的迷思,反思我们自己过去在他者和个人经验中感受到的迷失、成长以及成为自己路上的挣扎。我想这种迷惑以及获得成长的灵感一瞬并非个体的私人感受,而是作为女性共有的感受。
This is a special “girls’ chat” episode with our friends from 不合时宜. In this episode, we try to deconstruct the myth of the muse and the lone genius in pop culture and reflect on how it affected us.
【Timestamp】
02:35 “说的文艺一点是聊一聊男性艺术家和女性缪斯,说的不文艺一点就是骂骂男人”
08:17 缪斯的三重身份:素材,伴侣,粉丝
11:46 美国民谣皇后 Joan Baez 和 Zelda Fitzgerald
18:28 缪斯这个词总是和“红颜祸水”的印象联系起来
20:45 缪斯对面的“孤独天才“的自信是从哪里来的
31:30 在宏大叙事和认知失调中寻找自己作为女性的声音
43:28 艺术“自毁倾向”的诱惑,和如何夺回自我?
01:03:31 如果性别对调,这一切还成立吗
02:35 All of this is just an excuse to vent about men
08:17 The triple identity of the muse: the subject, the companion, the admirer
11:46 The story of Joan Baez and Zelda Fitzgerald
20:45 The myth of the lone genius and the source of their confidence
31:30 Finding your voice as a woman in the midst of grand narratives and cognitive dissonance
43:28 The temptation of artistic "self-destructive tendencies"
01:03:31 Can we tell the same story if the gender roles are reversed
我们提到的一些文章和作品:
Joan Baez — Diamonds and Rust
纪录片《Woman》
阿列克谢耶维奇《The Unwomanly Face of War: An Oral History of Women in World War II》
波伏娃 《第二性》
电影《Almost Famous》
《看不见的女性》- 卡罗琳·克里亚多·佩雷斯
【本期音乐】
- 片头:小野洋子 - Every Man Has a Woman Who Loves Him
- 插曲:Joan Baez - Diamonds And Rust
- 片尾:小野洋子 - Palumbo Of The Brothers Brothers - Yes, I'm A Witch
如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡:
- 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm
- 海内用户:https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm
- 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com
- 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022
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Manage episode 344259429 series 3324279
这是一期不合时宜和疲惫娇娃的串台节目,也是一场女生宿舍的四人夜谈。2012年,蔡依林就已经在《大艺术家》的歌词里劝女性不要被“缪斯”和“艺术家”的关系蓝本所迷惑、而失去自己的主体性;然而回望这十年里我们自己和身边朋友所经历的苦恼,不得不说蔡依林算是白唱了,但是人文社科的书不能白读。这期节目,我们试着从流行文化的角度拆解“缪斯”和“孤独的艺术家”的迷思,反思我们自己过去在他者和个人经验中感受到的迷失、成长以及成为自己路上的挣扎。我想这种迷惑以及获得成长的灵感一瞬并非个体的私人感受,而是作为女性共有的感受。
This is a special “girls’ chat” episode with our friends from 不合时宜. In this episode, we try to deconstruct the myth of the muse and the lone genius in pop culture and reflect on how it affected us.
【Timestamp】
02:35 “说的文艺一点是聊一聊男性艺术家和女性缪斯,说的不文艺一点就是骂骂男人”
08:17 缪斯的三重身份:素材,伴侣,粉丝
11:46 美国民谣皇后 Joan Baez 和 Zelda Fitzgerald
18:28 缪斯这个词总是和“红颜祸水”的印象联系起来
20:45 缪斯对面的“孤独天才“的自信是从哪里来的
31:30 在宏大叙事和认知失调中寻找自己作为女性的声音
43:28 艺术“自毁倾向”的诱惑,和如何夺回自我?
01:03:31 如果性别对调,这一切还成立吗
02:35 All of this is just an excuse to vent about men
08:17 The triple identity of the muse: the subject, the companion, the admirer
11:46 The story of Joan Baez and Zelda Fitzgerald
20:45 The myth of the lone genius and the source of their confidence
31:30 Finding your voice as a woman in the midst of grand narratives and cognitive dissonance
43:28 The temptation of artistic "self-destructive tendencies"
01:03:31 Can we tell the same story if the gender roles are reversed
我们提到的一些文章和作品:
Joan Baez — Diamonds and Rust
纪录片《Woman》
阿列克谢耶维奇《The Unwomanly Face of War: An Oral History of Women in World War II》
波伏娃 《第二性》
电影《Almost Famous》
《看不见的女性》- 卡罗琳·克里亚多·佩雷斯
【本期音乐】
- 片头:小野洋子 - Every Man Has a Woman Who Loves Him
- 插曲:Joan Baez - Diamonds And Rust
- 片尾:小野洋子 - Palumbo Of The Brothers Brothers - Yes, I'm A Witch
如果喜欢这期节目并愿意想要给我们买杯咖啡:
- 海外用户:https://www.patreon.com/cyberpinkfm
- 海内用户:https://afdian.net/@cyberpinkfm
- 商务合作邮箱:cyberpinkfm@gmail.com
- 商务合作微信:CyberPink2022
56 tập
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