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Is Jesus A Man, Myth or Legend (Discussion with Dr. Robert M. Price): Episode 1
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Robert M Price was formerly a Baptist minister who became open-minded to the idea that Jesus was a myth after reading books by George Wells and others. He concluded that the evidence for a historical Jesus was unconvincing and that the New Testament was likely a mythological version of what a historical Jesus might have been. He believes there could have been a historical Jesus, but that it is unlikely we will ever know for sure.
Robert M Price argues that the epistles were written earlier than the Gospels and provide no evidence of a recent historical Jesus, and that the secular sources such as Josephus, Tacitus, Marbon, and Serpon are likely spurious Christian editions. He believes that the narrative structure of the Josephus passage is not consistent with the rest of his work, and that the context in which it appears in Eusebius is too convenient.
Robert M Price suggests that the evidence for a historical Jesus is sparse and ambiguous, and that the Gospels may have been influenced by Hellenistic culture and the hero's journey archetype. He also suggests that the Romans may have influenced Christianity to pacify the Jews, and that the Flavian dynasty symbol may have been inherited from the Seleucid Empire.
Robert M Price discussed the similarities between the Old Testament and New Testament stories, the objections to the historical Jesus and the Christ myth theory, and the idea of memetic creation in literature. He also discussed the Jewish Maccabean revolt and the idea of forgery in literature.
Chapters & Topics
Robert M Price's Journey from Baptist Minister to Believing Jesus was a Myth 0:00
Robert M Price and Jeramiah Giehl discuss the potential of a historical Jesus and the evidence to support his existence. 5:45
The Historical JesusEvidence for the Historical JesusDiscussion of the Role of Jesus in Early Christianity 20:10
Examining the Historical Evidence for a Historical Jesus 27:18
Reconciling Jewish Christianity and Hellenistic Pauline Christianity
Accommodationism of the Pharisees and Sadducees in Post-Exilic Judaism 42:37
Examining the Role of Jesus in the Gospels 46:25
Miraculous Conceptions, Healing Miracles, and Apparent Resurrections in Religious Myths 52:11
Discussion of Ancient Religious Thought and its Influence on Christianity 54:54
The relation of the dying and rising gods in the ancient worldInfluence of Platonism and Gnosticism on Jewish and Christian Theology 1:00:43
Exploring the Origins of Paulinism and Christianity 1:05:06
Action Items
Consider the arguments of George Wells, Rudolph Bodman, and others who argue that Jesus was a myth 2:32
Reconstructing the history of Christianity 40:31
Key Questions
Was Jesus a revolutionary insurgent group leader? 10:06
What is the evidence to support Jesus' existence? 11:30
Was there a need for a historical Jesus at the root of Christianity? 25:10
What are the common evangelical objections and ways to overcome them when presenting ideas? 1:08:02
Highlights
Consider the arguments of George Wells, Rudolph Bodman, and others who argue that Jesus was a myth 2:32
Was Jesus a revolutionary insurgent group leader? 10:06
The Historical Jesus 10:06
What is the evidence to support Jesus' existence? 11:30
Evidence for the Historical Jesus 11:30
Was there a need for a historical Jesus at the root of Christianity? 25:10
Reconciling Jewish Christianity and Hellenistic Pauline Christianity 29:59
Reconstructing the history of Christianity 40:31
Research the parallels between Jesus and other ancient figures 51:12
The relation of the dying and rising gods in the ancient world 57:47What are the common evangelical objections and ways to overcome them when presenting ideas? 1:08:02
Full Transcript Available Here: https://jesusthejewwithinjudaism.wordpress.com/2023/05/22/is-jesus-a-man-myth-or-legend-discussion-with-dr-robert-m-price/
Podcast available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music & Audible, iHeartRadio, Deezer
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Is Jesus A Man, Myth or Legend (Discussion with Dr. Robert M. Price): Episode 1
Pulling The Thread Podcast: Tracing Jesus Before Christianity Emerged, Jesus the Jew within Judaism!
Manage episode 363947835 series 3477957
Robert M Price was formerly a Baptist minister who became open-minded to the idea that Jesus was a myth after reading books by George Wells and others. He concluded that the evidence for a historical Jesus was unconvincing and that the New Testament was likely a mythological version of what a historical Jesus might have been. He believes there could have been a historical Jesus, but that it is unlikely we will ever know for sure.
Robert M Price argues that the epistles were written earlier than the Gospels and provide no evidence of a recent historical Jesus, and that the secular sources such as Josephus, Tacitus, Marbon, and Serpon are likely spurious Christian editions. He believes that the narrative structure of the Josephus passage is not consistent with the rest of his work, and that the context in which it appears in Eusebius is too convenient.
Robert M Price suggests that the evidence for a historical Jesus is sparse and ambiguous, and that the Gospels may have been influenced by Hellenistic culture and the hero's journey archetype. He also suggests that the Romans may have influenced Christianity to pacify the Jews, and that the Flavian dynasty symbol may have been inherited from the Seleucid Empire.
Robert M Price discussed the similarities between the Old Testament and New Testament stories, the objections to the historical Jesus and the Christ myth theory, and the idea of memetic creation in literature. He also discussed the Jewish Maccabean revolt and the idea of forgery in literature.
Chapters & Topics
Robert M Price's Journey from Baptist Minister to Believing Jesus was a Myth 0:00
Robert M Price and Jeramiah Giehl discuss the potential of a historical Jesus and the evidence to support his existence. 5:45
The Historical JesusEvidence for the Historical JesusDiscussion of the Role of Jesus in Early Christianity 20:10
Examining the Historical Evidence for a Historical Jesus 27:18
Reconciling Jewish Christianity and Hellenistic Pauline Christianity
Accommodationism of the Pharisees and Sadducees in Post-Exilic Judaism 42:37
Examining the Role of Jesus in the Gospels 46:25
Miraculous Conceptions, Healing Miracles, and Apparent Resurrections in Religious Myths 52:11
Discussion of Ancient Religious Thought and its Influence on Christianity 54:54
The relation of the dying and rising gods in the ancient worldInfluence of Platonism and Gnosticism on Jewish and Christian Theology 1:00:43
Exploring the Origins of Paulinism and Christianity 1:05:06
Action Items
Consider the arguments of George Wells, Rudolph Bodman, and others who argue that Jesus was a myth 2:32
Reconstructing the history of Christianity 40:31
Key Questions
Was Jesus a revolutionary insurgent group leader? 10:06
What is the evidence to support Jesus' existence? 11:30
Was there a need for a historical Jesus at the root of Christianity? 25:10
What are the common evangelical objections and ways to overcome them when presenting ideas? 1:08:02
Highlights
Consider the arguments of George Wells, Rudolph Bodman, and others who argue that Jesus was a myth 2:32
Was Jesus a revolutionary insurgent group leader? 10:06
The Historical Jesus 10:06
What is the evidence to support Jesus' existence? 11:30
Evidence for the Historical Jesus 11:30
Was there a need for a historical Jesus at the root of Christianity? 25:10
Reconciling Jewish Christianity and Hellenistic Pauline Christianity 29:59
Reconstructing the history of Christianity 40:31
Research the parallels between Jesus and other ancient figures 51:12
The relation of the dying and rising gods in the ancient world 57:47What are the common evangelical objections and ways to overcome them when presenting ideas? 1:08:02
Full Transcript Available Here: https://jesusthejewwithinjudaism.wordpress.com/2023/05/22/is-jesus-a-man-myth-or-legend-discussion-with-dr-robert-m-price/
Podcast available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Amazon Music & Audible, iHeartRadio, Deezer
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