163: Book Magic with poet and educator, Zoe Tuck

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Mara Thomas got to know poet and educator Zoe Tuck through the School of the Alternative in Black Mountain, North Carolina where Zoe taught a class called “Book Magic.”

“Book Magic” started from the premise that there is a grain of truth to the magic we remember from children's books and other fantastical literature. And if those books contained a grain of truth, how might participants nurture that grain and write their own magical systems into being?

Enjoy this conversation about the mystical and intuitive parts of the creative process, ranging from friendship to trance poetics and patterned breath to the potency of shared creative spaces.

Check out the show notes below for links to many of the books, writers, and resources referenced in this episode.


Zoe Tuck (she/her) was born in Texas, became a person in California, and now lives in Massachusetts. She is the author of Terror Matrix (Timeless, Infinite Light) and the chapbooks "Vape Cloud of Unknowing" (Belladonna*) and "The Book of Bella" (DoubleCross Press), the latter of which is bound in a dos-a-dos edition with Emily Hunerwadel's "Peach Woman." In addition to teaching creative writing and literature classes, Zoe is the co-host of The But Also reading series with Britt Billmeyer-Finn and the co-editor of Hot Pink Magazine with Emily Brown.


IG: @zoe.tuck

Website: zoetuck.com


School of the Alternative

Eliza Swann - Golden Dome, Alchemical Imagination

Julia Cameron - The Artist’s Way

Automatic Writing

Jack Spicer - San Francisco Renaissance Poet

Svetlana Boym - Scenography of Friendship

Renee Gladman - Adjacent Alterities

Troubling the Line - first ever collection of poetry by trans & genderqueer poets

Cento Poetry Practice

KPrevallet - Trance Poetics, Ecosomatic Poetics

James Nestor - Breath


Master Builder

The New Colossus

Declaration of Love audio anthology

ASBX Shorts


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