Hare aims to be a 100 year language (Interview)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

This week on The Changelog we’re joined by Drew DeVault, talking about the Hare programming language. From the website, Hare is a systems programming language designed to be simple, stable, and robust. When we asked Drew why he created it, he said “[because] I wanted it to exist, and it did not exist.” Wise words.

We discuss Hare (of course), why he’s so passionate about all things open source, the state of the language, fostering a culture that values stability, and oddly enough — what it takes to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

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Featuring:

• Drew DeVault – Website, Mastodon
• Adam Stacoviak – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
• Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X

Show Notes:

• sourcehut - the hacker’s forge!
• Drew on SourceHut
• The Hare programming language
• Himitsu
• SourceHut’s 2022 Financial report
• Can I be on your podcast

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

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1. This week on The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Neon (00:01:17)

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3. Start the show! (00:04:50)

4. Why start a programming language? (00:07:41)

5. Who is the team? (00:11:26)

6. Why do you believe in open source? (00:13:07)

7. Is Sourcehut a response to GitHub? (00:15:19)

8. What is using Sourcehut like? (00:16:54)

9. Using email to git (00:18:35)

10. Hare is ambitious (00:21:23)

11. Design attributes of Hare (00:23:34)

12. Re-write core infra in memory safe langs (00:25:22)

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14. Aiming for 100 years (00:31:10)

15. There will never be a 2.0 (00:33:28)

16. The importance of the standard (00:36:05)

17. Did you name this backwards? (00:36:56)

18. It's hard to call something finished (00:38:24)

19. How far along are you? (00:39:30)

20. Why not LTS Hare? (00:41:24)

21. Sponsor: .Tech Domains (00:44:44)

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22. Valuing stability (00:49:43)

23. The Hare community (00:55:05)

24. Pun break! (00:56:25)

25. Something secret in Hare (00:57:56)

26. Is there a better place to start? (00:59:42)

27. More puns/words for hare (01:00:48)

28. That's all folks! (01:03:02)

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