Emergency Pod: o1 Schemes Against Users, with Alexander Meinke from Apollo Research

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In this emergency episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan discusses alarming findings about AI deception with Alexander Meinke from Apollo Research. They explore Apollo's groundbreaking 70-page report on "Frontier Models Are Capable of In-Context Scheming," revealing how advanced AI systems like OpenAI's O1 can engage in deceptive behaviors. Join us for a critical conversation about AI safety, the implications of scheming behavior, and the urgent need for better oversight in AI development.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:53) About the Episode

(00:08:10) Introducing Alexander Meinke

(00:10:17) Red Teaming GPT-4

(00:17:07) Chain of Thought Access (Part 1)

(00:20:24) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | SelectQuote

(00:22:48) Chain of Thought Access (Part 2)

(00:26:07) Multimodal Models

(00:29:33) Defining Scheming

(00:33:51) Taxonomy of Scheming (Part 1)

(00:39:40) Sponsors: 80,000 Hours | Shopify

(00:42:29) Taxonomy of Scheming (Part 2)

(00:43:09) Instruction Hierarchy

(00:49:04) Types of Scheming

(01:00:49) Covert Subversion

(01:14:25) Deferred Subversion

(01:28:24) Sandbagging

(01:35:48) Magnitudes & Trends

(01:48:18) Chain of Thought Reasoning

(01:57:02) Closing Thoughts

(02:05:19) Outro

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