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Two Lawyers Talk Sports

Spencer Kelly

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Join attorneys Aaron and Spencer as they discuss late breaking college athletics topics with a focus on NCAA rules. Check out our YouTube channel too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0TutFckcIg&t=209s
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In this episode, we talk about the fight between Michigan State and Michigan, where a number of Michigan State players attacked a Michigan Football player. Will criminal charges follow against the Michigan State players? We also talk about the IARP giving penalties to Louisville. Are the penalties fair? Equitable? Kansas also decided to self-impose…
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In this episode, we talk about the NCAA providing new NIL rules/regulations and what role the schools can provide to help the student athletes in NIL deals, etc. We also talk about the aftermath of an Alabama player punching a Tennessee fan after the Volunteers upset the Crimson Tide in an epic game. What should schools do to prepare for fans storm…
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In the episode this week, we talk about two Clemson football players who are being sued civilly for a car accident that occurred last year. Both players were cited at the scene and criminally charged. How should compliance offices handle student athletes being sued civilly and/or criminally charged? We also talk about Bobby Wagner, a linebacker for…
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In this episode, we talk about the rumors surrounding Arizona State football and assistant coaches leaking game information to other coaches, in an effort to get their head coach fired. We also talk about recruiting violations at LSU and at Air Force, and the differences in the penalties between the two schools. Lastly we talk about Penny Hardaway …
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In this episode, we talk about how Texas Football shelled out $280,000 to woo one recruit! How much will schools spend to woo big-time recruits? We also talk about some legal issues for Brett Favre and potentially defrauding the State of Mississippi. Lastly, we talk about the BYU vs. Oregon game this weekend and AP makes his weekly picks! Will it b…
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In this episode, we talk about the Duke women's volleyball player who accused the BYU student section of using racial slurs during a recent women's volleyball game. However, the investigation after the game revealed that the incident did not happen. What could be the legal fallouts from the controversy. Also, AP makes his week 2 picks. Will his hot…
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Season 4 kicks off with a bang! In this episode we talk about the new college football playoff rules and expanding to 12 teams. Also, we talk about the new transfter rules and time frames. Lastly, will AP keep his hot picks last the last two years? He picks Oregon v. Georgia; Florida v. Utah; Cincinnati v. Arkansas; and Ohio State v. Notre Dame. We…
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In this episode, we talk about Pac12 media days and read between the lines of what the new Pac12 commissioner is saying about possible expansion and the schools the Pac12 may be eyeing. We also talk about what may have occurred between the Pac12 and the Big12 negotiations. Lastly, Tennessee is in some hot water with 18 NCAA violations and potential…
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In this episode, we're talking about the move of USC and UCLA to the Pac12. What does this move do for USC and UCLA? What about the future of the Pac12? Would a Big12 and Pac12 merger help save the existing schools? So much to discuss, so little time! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/twolawyers/message…
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In this interview, we have a fascinating discussion about the crossover between technology and sports and how companies are taking advantage of this new market. We also talk about some major issues potentially at the University of Miami with NIL issues. Lastly, we talk about a new transgender ban in international swimming and discuss the legal rami…
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In this episode we talk about the moral, ethical and legal issues around the LIV tour vs. the PGA. We discuss violations at August University with coaches helping student athletes cheat. We also talk about updated NIL rules and regulations. Lastly, we talk about Topps starting to have college athlete trading cards! We also discuss if the Blazers ar…
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In this episode, we talk NIL rules and regulations with a Ken Jones, LL.M., Esq., a business attorney, tax lawyer and power broker. Ken gives his insights into what limitations, if any, should be placed on student athletes regarding NIL deals. We also talk about the potential sale of the Blazers to Phil Knight, the owner of Nike. Enjoy! --- Send in…
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In this episode, we interview Isaac Hovet, pastor at New Hope Church in Salem, Ore., about the Oregon Duck football program. What are the expectations for Duck Fans this year with a new coaching staff and a challenging schedule? How should fandom be handled in circumstances after and before games? Enjoy! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcast…
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In this episode, we interview Drew Diener, AAL, a Texas A&M alum, and former sports journalist. We talk with Drew about the feud between Nick Saban and Jimbo Fisher about NIL deals and Texas A&M "buying players". What does it look like for Texas A&M next year? Does Texas A&M buy players? Let's talk some college sports! --- Send in a voice message: …
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In this episode, we talk about the conclusion of the Brenner v. Oregon/NCAA case and the finding that the NCAA was negligent but no damages were paid. We discuss allegations against Alabama tampering with recruits. Coach Saban denies it but says that it is hard to control third-parties. The NCAA issues new NIL guidelines and starts to put some rule…
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In this episode, we give an update on the Brenner vs. Oregon lawsuit and explain motions for summary judgment, settling in the middle of a claim, and strategies for both sides. In addition, Nebraska Football got dinged by the NCAA for having too many countable coaches. Lastly, NIL and student athletes are going crazy and is completely out of contro…
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In this episode, we continue to follow the lawsuit between a former Oregon Player, Brenner, versus the University of Oregon, the NCAA and former Oregon Football Coach, Willie Taggart. We talk about some evidentiary matters and opening arguments. We also discuss some updated rule changes regarding targeting, faking injuries and blocking below the wa…
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In this episode we talk about a trial that started this week between a former University of Oregon player versus Willie Taggart, the former UofO coach, the University of Oregon and the NCAA. We breakdown the allegations and how the NCAA rules/regulations could help and hurt the lawsuit. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/po…
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In this episode, we talk about Adidas offering NIL deals to all the student athletes at Adidas schools, which could be around 50,000 total student athletes. We also talk about Will Wade being fired at LSU and what led to his firing. Memphis is back in hot water and Penny Hardaway could be in deep trouble. March Madness has been crazy and the Final …
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In this episode, we reveal our brackets and make our picks. If you want a perfect bracket, listen to our predictions and then apply what we say, and you'll win your bracket challenge. (This is not a guarantee, because we really don't know what we're doing)! So happy to have March Madness back and in person! --- Send in a voice message: https://podc…
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Have you ever wondered, like Coach Bruce Weber of KSU, why Oklahoma State basketball got punished but other schools involved in the Adidas FBI scandal are not getting punished? We talk about the difference between Kansas, Auburn, LSU, etc., and why they are not being punished yet. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show…
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In this episode, we talk about the fight at the end of the Michigan v. Wisconsin basketball game and subsequent suspensions for Juwan Howard and players. Should the NCAA do away with the handshake line at the end of a game? We also talk about the crazy NIL deals that are happening across the country and the NCAA's reaction. Will the NCAA place more…
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In this episode, we talk about a recent push to have student athletes categorized as employees of the universities and colleges. How would that change the way that college athletes receive benefits? Would it change college athletics as we know it? Also, UIC is leaving the Horizon League and is out of the conference championships. This is based on a…
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In this episode, we talk with Kyle Skillman, an attorney at BSK Law, about how the new NIL rules are changing the landscape for NCAA schools and athletes. We also talk about how the NCAA is changing its rule book and transferring some of the rules/regulations to the institutions and conferences. Lastly, we talk about how the NCAA is approaching tra…
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In this episode, we talk about the national championship game between Alabama and Georgia. What is the future of the playoff expansion? Should there even be expansion. We discuss an issue at the University of Maryland and a coach being suspended 30 days for a violation of a morality clause. Lastly, we discuss USC basketball and BYU basketball. --- …
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In this episode, we talk about the COVID increase and how the NCAA is handling the COVID surge. Will March Madness be impacted? Also, we give our grades to the new Coaching hires at USC, LSU and Miami. Lastly, we preview the Alabama v. Georgia national championship game! Will Alabama repeat? --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.c…
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In this episode, we talk about Auburn's penalties for NCAA recruiting violations. We also discuss BYU and Miami being put on notice for NIL deals and if there are violations. Oregon still looking for a coach, who's going to get the job? Lastly, what are the Blazers doing with the roster. Also, AP starts to pick NCAA basketball games. --- Send in a …
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In this episode, we talk about the coaching changes at USC, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, LSU, Washington, Virginia, Fresno State, and others! The coaching carousel in college football is going crazy right now! We also discuss the firing of the Blazers GM. Lastly, AP makes his picks for championship weekend! Will he win the bet? --- Send in a voice message…
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In this episode, we interview Vic DeNardi, who was the former head of NCAA compliance and investigations, and is now at Draftly, Inc., helping student athletes and other understand and benefit off the new NIL rules and NFTs. We also provide updates with situations at UMass and Ok State. Lastly, AP makes his picks!--- Send in a voice message: https:…
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In this episode we cover a lot of information! First, Conference USA is expanding and adding Liberty, New Mexico State, Jacksonville State and Sam Houston State. Also, James Madison is rumored to be joining the Sun Belt, but its former conference, the CAA, is not happy and threatening banning the athletes from playing in conference championships. W…
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In this episode, we talk about conference shakeups in the American Athletic Conference and Conference USA. What happens to Conference USA after the American Athletic Conference took 6 programs? Will C-USA and the Sunbelt merge? Creating the "USA-Belt"? Also, we talk about Nick Rolovich's firing at Washington State regarding his refusal to get the C…
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In this episode we interview Justin Pullnow, the director of Compliance at Arizona State University, And talk to him about the new name, image, and likeness rules, and how they are being implemented at schools. We also update you on the Kansas basketball situation and a new NCAA rule to no longer require test scores for NCAA athletes. Lastly, AP ma…
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In this episode, we initially discuss a fraud scheme where multiple former NBA players, and a few coaches, defrauded the NBA's medical and dental policy to the tune of $2.5 million! What could the former players be facing! Second, we do a quick rules ed about recent violations at Jacksonville State (Go Gamecocks)! We have a fun interview with Reed …
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In this episode, we talk about how conference expansion is changing the landscape of college athletics. We also discuss some more issues in Louisville and some NCAA infractions have occurred. Lastly, a new report from the NLRB suggests that athlete’s in school should be able to form unions and negotiate with their respective schools. What ramificat…
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In this episode, we interview Jose Eskenazi, the Associate AD at USC (Strategic Partnerships, Social/Video Brand & Licensing). We talk to him about his background and how he ended up back at USC. We discuss NIL rules, coaching search, how USC is navigating the new NCAA landscape, and Pac12 media rights. We also discuss recent NIL deal with all the …
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In this episode, we talk about USC's sudden firing of Clay Helton. Who is USC going to target for its next head coach? The possibilities are endless and just about everyone is on the list. Also, we discuss the AAC expansion and if the conference will attempt to raid the MWC. We discuss a violation at George Mason and the penalties that follows. Las…
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In this episode, we talk more about the Big12's additions of BYU, Houston, UCF and Cincinnati. We discuss the impact of Mark Few's DUI and the possible criminal options for Few. We talk about Spence's recent trip to Las Vegas for the BYU vs. Arizona game! Lastly, AP makes his picks for the weekend. Enjoy! --- Send in a voice message: https://podcas…
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In this episode, we talk about the Big 12 expanding to 12 teams and zeroing in on BYU, Houston, UCF and Cincinnati. What will the Big 12 look like with those four teams. We also talk about the controversy of having Oregon v. Ohio State at 9:00 a.m. kickoff. We discuss a lawsuit filed by a former Washington State football player against the head coa…
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In this episode, we talk about the Pac12's decision not to expand and what that means for the Big12. Will the Big12 go after BYU, Cincinnati, Boise State, Memphis, Houston, etc.? We also give an update on the lawsuit between UCLA and Under Armour. In addition, Dino Gaudio's legal troubles come to a close with probation and a fine. In our Rule's Edu…
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SEASON 3! In this episode we talk about the proposed alliance between Pac12, ACC & Big 10. Would that benefit or hurt the chances of each school to increase the difficulty of the schedule, but decrease the likelihood of an undefeated season. We also talk about the Baylor punishment for its football team. Does a "slap on the wrist" equal the crimes …
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In this episode, we interview the Associate Athletic Director at the University of Maine, Samantha Hegmann. We talk about the challenges that Maine faces in recruiting and with new NIL rules. We also discuss the possibility of a Big 12 and Pac 12 merger. In addition, the NCAA commissioned a law firm to investigate equity in the Men's and Women's ba…
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In this episode, we talk with the Athletic Direct at UMBC, Brian Barrio. He provides insight into what it's like to be an AD at a DI program. We also discuss with him the new NIL rules, conference expansion, and the future of UMBC. We also discuss Oklahoma and Texas formally being welcomed into the SEC and the implications that move will have on th…
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In this episode, we continue our deep dive into what's happening at the University of Hartford with the move from DI to DIII athletics. We interview Robert Carmody, a two-time captain for Hartford Baseball team. He was present when the University informed the athletes that Hartford was making the move. His story is amazing and sad. The University i…
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In this episode, we interview Chris LeGates and Mark Franco, who have a podcast called "Tackling College Sports". Chris and Mark are exposing the potentially huge scandal at the University of Hartford and the reasons why UHart is dropping from Division 1 to Division 3 in sports. The information they shared with us is shocking! Also, NCAA reported v…
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In this episode, we talk about the potential mine field that is the new NIL rules. Players are signing big deals and small deals. How will the deals impact the season and going forward with NIL rules. We also discuss congress' request to the NCAA about gender inequality. Lastly, University of Hartford is sued by current athletes to keep the school …
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As of July 1, 2021, student athletes can now profit off their Name, Image & Likeness. With very few restrictions, the student athletes can now be sponsored and make money off their social media accounts. In fact, many athletes are already cashing in! How will this impact college sports going forward? Let's talk about it! --- Send in a voice message…
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In this episode, we talk about two recent, and very important, US Supreme Court Decisions. The first case, NCAA v. Alston, deals with NCAA student athletes receiving the same benefits that would extend to non-student athletes on campus and how the Supreme Court laid the groundwork for Student Athletes to make money off their respective NIL. In the …
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In this episode, we talk about the potentially huge problems that could be facing Arizona State University with some allegations of recruiting violations. We also interview a friend of the show, Justin DiTolla, the head of compliance at Syracuse University, about updated recruiting rules and how Syracuse is going to handle the new NIL rules. Lastly…
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In this episode, we talk about the new proposal to expand the college football playoff to 12 teams. We talk about the proposal and how it will work. Who benefits the most? Who does the expansion hurt? Will the proposal help the smaller conferences? Also, we talk about college football summer camps. How coaches game the system to work with the kids …
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