Engineering management (for the rest of us) (Changelog Interviews #540)

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This week Sarah Drasner joins us to talk about her book Engineering Management for the Rest of Us and her experience leading engineering at Zillow, Microsoft, Netlify, and now Google.

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• DevCycle – Build better software with DevCycle. Feature flags, without the tech debt. DevCycle is a Feature Flag Management platform designed to help you build maintainable code at scale.
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Featuring:

• Sarah Drasner – Twitter, GitHub, Website
• Adam Stacoviak – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
• Jerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn

Show Notes:

• sarahdrasnerdesign.com
• Sarah Drasner on CSS Tricks
• Book: Engineering Management for the Rest of Us
• The Peter principle
• Accelerate: Building and Scaling High Performing Technology Organizations
• Dr. Nicole Forsgren
• The Engineer/Manager Pendulum

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1. This week on The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: DevCycle (00:01:09)

http://devcycle.com/changelog

3. Start the show! (00:03:59)

4. The OG post on CSS Tricks (00:07:22)

5. Sarah's straight ine to here (00:11:55)

6. The nerd part, lol (00:14:09)

7. Challenging parts of writing this book (00:20:13)

8. Trust is built in drops (00:24:28)

9. Sponsor: Sentry (00:26:07)

https://sentry.io/for/code-coverage/

10. Values exercise (00:30:16)

11. How do you give trust? (00:32:07)

12. We have ways less data now (00:34:22)

13. How do you IRL? (00:40:52)

14. What about bottom up change? (00:42:54)

15. Differeent tools for different scenarios (00:49:44)

16. Sponsor: Rocky Linux (00:54:43)

https://rockylinux.org/changelog

17. Doing 1:1s (00:57:16)

18. Can't not and rules to follow (00:59:57)

19. Solving techincal problems (01:01:21)

20. Hands on in the weeds? (01:02:45)

21. Things to avoid. Don't do this. (01:04:16)

22. Dealing with self (01:07:22)

23. When to say "no" (01:10:59)

24. Sarah makes us blush! (01:16:29)

25. Up next! (01:19:43)