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Are you a therapist or helper that likes to think deeply and creatively about ways to build trust with our bodies in and out of the therapy office? Do you want to overcome disordered relationships to food so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk – your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapist podcast where we talk about creative ways to heal and build self-trust, Internal Family Systems theory and Parts Psychology, and unlearning the many messages from oppressive systems that lead us away from body trust. I’m Dr. Shawn Hondorp, clinical psychologist. Let’s work together to create safe learning environments for those who want to explore innovative approaches to healing, one authentic conversation at a time. 🌈✌🏻✌🏽✌🏿🌳
Are you a therapist or helper that likes to think deeply and creatively about ways to build trust with our bodies in and out of the therapy office? Do you want to overcome disordered relationships to food so that you can live a life that feels aligned and amazing, and help inspire others to do the same? Do you hate small talk – your idea of fun is deep and meaningful talks about living more courageous and connected lives? If so, then welcome to the Innovative Therapist podcast where we talk about creative ways to heal and build self-trust, Internal Family Systems theory and Parts Psychology, and unlearning the many messages from oppressive systems that lead us away from body trust. I’m Dr. Shawn Hondorp, clinical psychologist. Let’s work together to create safe learning environments for those who want to explore innovative approaches to healing, one authentic conversation at a time. 🌈✌🏻✌🏽✌🏿🌳
Episode 137: Creativity, Entrepreneurship, & Living an Aligned Life (Season 5) Welcome to Season 5! I’m so excited to kick off this season of The Innovative Therapist Podcast with a fresh approach: a seasonal model. In Episode 137, I share why I made this shift and how this season’s theme, Creativity, Entrepreneurship, & Living an Aligned Life , will guide us through meaningful and inspiring conversations. Taking extended breaks between seasons has been an intentional choice to allow time for rest, creativity, and alignment with what feels most life-giving—and I’m thrilled to bring this energy into Season 5. To start off this episode and season, I’ll share about a song I’ve been obsessed with every since I heard it. Actually, a YouTube video. I’ve probably listened and/or watched this video 200x, maybe more. I just watched it before I recorded this episode. I didn’t really know why I liked it, but over time I think I’m understanding. I’ll share this story as an example of how we can get curious about why we love what we love, even if on the surface it doesn’t “make sense” right away… What to Expect This Season This season, we’ll dive deep into the stories of therapists and professionals who have carved out lives and careers they truly love. Through honest conversations, we’ll explore the messy, beautiful process of paving a path that aligns with our values, embracing creativity and play along the way. My hope is that these stories inspire you to reflect on your own path and find ways to live more fully in alignment. You’re also going to see my true Zone of Genius in action, which is essentially, having deep honest talks with super cool people. We’ll explore questions like: How do we bring more creativity and play into our work and personal lives? What does it really mean to live in alignment with our values and strengths? How can we reimagine traditional models of therapy and leadership? Each episode is designed to highlight different facets of creativity, play, and alignment through storytelling and practical strategies. Episodes 138 & 139: The Foundation for This Season Episode 138: Pack Leadership: The Most Life-Changing Concept I’ve Learned Since Intuitive Eating In this conversation with Randi Rubenstein, we explore the transformative concept of Pack Leadership and its parallels to intuitive eating. It’s all about creating safety, connection, and belonging within our “pack,” whether that’s our family, team, or community. Randi shares practical strategies to embody calm, confident leadership in all areas of life. Episode 139: Creativity, Play, and Getting More of What You Want Randi returns to talk about how creativity and play have transformed both my parenting and professional life. We discuss how working in your Zone of Genius is not only fulfilling but also deeply generous to those around you—even though it’s a countercultural idea. We also explore practical strategies for fostering creativity and play with our kids, at work, and in our daily lives. Additional Guest Lineup for This Season I’m beyond excited to share the lineup of incredible guests joining us this season. Each brings a unique perspective on creativity, play, and living an aligned life: Melvin Varghese, PhD — Creator of Selling the Couch podcast with 1.8+ million downloads, Melvin has so much insight into doing work as a therapist beyond 1 on 1 work. We’ll discuss the pros and cons of doing work outside of one-on-one therapy and what it means to follow your creative instincts in new directions. Elisa Pérez-Arellano, LMSW — Elisa shares her journey of blending creativity and connection into her work and how it’s shaped her aligned life. Adeshola Nnamdi, LMFT — Adeshola explores the intersection of cultural identity, creativity, and mental health, offering insights on how to honor your roots while forging your unique path. Rachel Bentley , LPC — Rachel’s story is a testament to the power of play and how reconnecting with her Parts via the Internal Family Systems model transformed her personal and professional life. Laura Corbiani, CFP – Financial advisor, feminist, and founder of Astrea Wealth Management , Laura and I have an honest conversation about money, entrepreneurship, women’s empowerment, and mindset related blocks many of us face when it comes to all of the above. Each of these conversations is packed with insights, inspiration, and practical takeaways to help you integrate creativity and play into your own aligned life. Why This Season Matters This season isn’t just about learning from others—it’s about creating space to reflect on what alignment looks like for you . Living an aligned life is deeply personal and dynamic. It requires us to pause, reassess, and embrace the things that bring us joy and meaning. By taking extended breaks between seasons, I’ve had time to recharge and connect with what’s truly important. I hope this season inspires you to do the same: to embrace rest, lean into creativity, and find playfulness in your work and relationships. Let’s Get Started! I’m so glad you’re here to join me on this journey. Tune in to Episode 137 to hear more about the shift to a seasonal model, why I chose this theme, and what’s ahead. Then get excited to dive into Episodes 138 and 139 for the foundational conversations that set the tone for the season. Thank you for being part of this community. Let’s explore creativity, play, and alignment together—one inspiring story at a time. Want More? If you’re inspired by this episode and want to dive deeper into creativity, play, and meaningful connection, here are some ways to connect: Therapy Clients: If you live in one of these 42 states in the US, I’m currently accepting new clients. My rate is $225 for an intake session and $200 for follow-ups. Contact me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 for more information. Therapists & Helping Professionals: Join my email list here or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself. Let’s explore creative methods for healing and leadership together. Podcast Inspiration : Explore podcasts about becoming a more playful parent like this one . Together, we can create more aligned, vibrant lives filled with joy, connection, and creativity. Disclaimer This blog and podcast are for informational and educational purposes only. They are not a substitute for professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice, and do not constitute a provider-patient relationship.…
Episode 136: Joy, Rest, and Showing Up in Your Zone of Genius Welcome back to The Innovative Therapist Podcast ! This episode marks a small milestone for the show—I’ve officially upgraded my mic setup! After 137 episodes of recording with a free noise-canceling headset (and occasionally in my car on my phone), I finally invested in a proper mic and pop filter. Let’s just say my tech journey involved a bit of user error, but here we are, and I hope the sound quality is noticeably better for you! But that’s not the heart of today’s episode. Instead, we’re diving into a topic that’s been front and center in my mind lately: the delicate balance between joy, rest, and purpose in the work we do as therapists and healers. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: A Business and Life Update : I’ll share a transparent look at where I am professionally and personally as 2024 comes to a close. Reflecting on the past year helps me process lessons learned and set intentions for the future. The Challenge of Balancing Rest and Passion : When you truly love your work, carving out time for rest can feel tricky (or even counterintuitive). I’ll talk about my ongoing journey with this balance and what’s worked (and hasn’t). The Zone of Genius Concept in Action : I’ll discuss how I’m applying the idea of working in your Zone of Genius—not just professionally, but in everyday life—and what it’s teaching me about alignment and joy. Money and Meaningful Work : Money is a theme that keeps popping up in my reflections and conversations. While I’m not diving deeply into it in this episode, I’m previewing plans for upcoming episodes in 2025 that will explore the relationship between money, worth, and sustainable joy in our work. A Look Ahead : I’ll share my plans for taking a rest period as we pause the podcast over the holidays, what rest looks like for me right now, and some ideas for upcoming episodes when we return. Living a Big Life: You’ll hear a bit about this Marvelous Mrs. Maisel clip and what I love so much about it. And what a big life looks like to me. Why This Episode Matters This episode is a chance for us to take a pause together, reflect on the intersection of healing work, creativity, and rest, and celebrate the progress we’ve made. If you’ve ever felt torn between your love for your work and your need for downtime—or wondered how to tap more deeply into your gifts—this one’s for you. Resources Mentioned: Free PDF with ideas for Creative Ways to Make Money as a Therapist Tune In Grab a cup of coffee (or your beverage of choice) and join me for this honest, reflective, and slightly vulnerable episode. Let’s explore how we can continue to show up in the work we were called to do—joyfully, meaningfully, and with plenty of room for rest. Listen to the episode now, and let me know your thoughts! What does rest look like for you at this stage in your journey? How are you leaning into your Zone of Genius? Drop me a message or share your reflections—I’d love to hear from you. Here’s to a restorative end to 2024 and an inspired start to 2025! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams. I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 42 states in the US. My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195. If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001. Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and explore creative methods for healing, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 136. I’m feeling more called to share things about the food relationship again lately, which has been kind of fun. I talk about this stuff all day every day with many of my 1 on 1 clients, and sometimes I forget that it isn’t second nature to people, since I’ve spent many a year focusing on improving my relationship to food and body for myself. Today’s episode walks you through what I did with my Halloween candy recently and why. It was also an opportunity to reflect on my business and the Body Respect Program I ran a few years ago. What to Expect in this Episode I cover the following: Why I felt compelled to share this episode today What I did with my Halloween candy this year and why My FB live about this same topic November 2020! It’s cringey! I was super nervous Reflecting on the Body Respect Program and my thoughts about updating it with IFS Some of the small ways my opinions have changed about food addiction and how I might tweak my prior statement from my FB live, “food addiction is a real thing” The extreme polarization on food addiction What I think is behind my desire for food (Check out the “I want a big life” clip here ) How to navigate the nuance with eating decisions and be honest with yourself And more! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I help therapists, helpers, and other humans navigate the nuance and develop deep trust with their bodies, so they can go live the life of their dreams. I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 42 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and explore creative methods for healing, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 134. Today’s episode is Part 2 of 2 of my conversation with Becca Gibson. Please make sure to go back and listen to Part 1 first. In this part of the conversation we dive into the good stuff. The ways that therapists and other helpers accidentally cause harm, how to avoid this, and some of the things Becca really wishes people knew about people who have diagnoses of ADHD and Autism. Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people. Let’s dive in! What to Expect in This Episode We cover the following: Some of the many ways that therapists and others can cause harm for people with ADHD and Autism Becca’s thoughts on the requirement of a formal diagnosis to confirm ADHD or Autism What therapists can to do avoid this harm What psychodrama is and how it can be therapeutic, particularly for experiences with trauma (including how it brings a somatic component that can be unique compared to other somatic therapies) What psychodrama can look like and how it can be used in individual and group settings Becca’s insights into community building, group work and how it can do things that individual work simply cannot Becca’s process with openly sharing her ADHD and Autism diagnoses and what went into that decision And so much more! Who is Becca Gibson Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy , a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” – and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision. Definition of Neurodivergent Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker , neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’” Resources Mentioned YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ Matt Lowry’s information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label these feelings AASPIRE – https://autismandhealth.org/ Information about Psychodrama The Obsessive Joy of Autism book Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 133. I am so incredibly grateful for this conversation. I’m especially grateful for Becca’s knowledge and openness about their personal and professional experiences in this realm. I’m also so glad I live in a time when therapists can come on a podcast and be open about their personal experiences. What a freaking gift. Becca is a therapist who works primarily with high masking, late identified and late diagnosed autistic and ADHD people. This conversation is a 2-parter, filled with information, resources and interwoven with Becca’s story of becoming a therapist and late diagnosis of ADHD and autism. You’re going to love it. What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: The work Becca does with clients, professional trainings and continuing education and how their non-linear path here The ways autism and ADHD are understood now, and how Becca has seen these understanding shift over the past few decades The true definition of neurodivergence What it means that autism is a dynamic disability Why we don’t use the term Asperger’s syndrome anymore And so much more! (Be sure to tune in next week for Part 2 where we dive into the harm that can be caused by therapists and others to those with Autism and ADHD, and how to avoid this, psychodrama, Becca’s other creative joys, and so much more) Who is Becca Gibson Becca Gibson, LCSW-C, LICSW, is an Autistic and ADHD independent clinical social worker, as well as the founder and owner of Wired Differently Therapy , a private practice serving clients in the states of Maryland and Massachusetts. After spending years supporting disabled students in public school classrooms, Becca began a career in social work with a specialization helping neurodiverse couples, families, and neurodivergent individuals through a neurodiversity affirming lens. Becca’s clinical work focuses on Autistics and ADHDers – especially those who are considered “gifted”, or “twice-exceptional” – and the intersection of LGBTQIA+ identities and neurodivergence. In addition to their work as a therapist, Becca provides professional development training, clinical consultation, and clinical supervision. Definition of Neurodivergent Neurodivergent is an umbrella term. According to Nick Walker , neurodivergent refers to “having a mind that functions in ways which diverge significantly from the dominant societal standards of ‘normal.’” Resources Mentioned YouTube ADHD training delivered by Becca Gibson: https://youtu.be/IcWMwK1aSvg?si=kaRlsD1Ysp8mAXnQ Matt Lowry’s information about how he has reframed the DSM diagnostic criteria for autism to be more strengths-based Information on Autistic-Centered Therapy from KindTherapyandWellness.com Autistics are more likely to experience complex trauma, and to identify as alexithymic. Alexithymia doesn’t mean you don’t feel things, it just means you have trouble identifying how to label these feelings AASPIRE – https://autismandhealth.org/ Information about Psychodrama The Obsessive Joy of Autism book Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 132. Well this conversation has been a long time coming and it was sooo worth the wait. Elise Kutt is so creative, so authentic, and such an innovative trailblazer when it comes to photography as healing, building businesses that truly help people, and building diverse and supportive communities. Elise shares so much knowledge as she shares her story with pursuing her creative passions, how she learned and continues to learn to listen to her body, and what has guided her along this journey. She’s built a business and a life that involves traveling the world with her closest friends and doing what she loves, so that alone makes her someone I really want to listen and learn from. I loved her quote about an early failure and what she learned after finding photography: “I knew I wanted to do something creative every day for the rest of my life.” – Elise Kutt If this isn’t a story about the power of creativity… I don’t know what would be. Enjoy this incredible conversation with Elise Kutt of ModBettie! What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: Her experience building some incredibly innovative businesses and helping so many heal in a variety of ways and see themselves and their bodies differently How listening to her desires and responding to community needs has built such a large empire How self portraits helped her fall in love with herself for the first time What the journey of self love really looks like and how a self portrait practice can help you along yours What led to Elise’s major aha moment (Hint: it involved listening to her body and making a very large and brave decision with her business) Her in the moment creative idea with how you can harness the power of listening to your body exactly as she did Where can boudoir sessions or photography be harmful? What you should be aware of How Elise built a very intentionally inclusive community (this answer really stuck with me) The way Elise got into co-hosting retreats and how Human Design has supported her in growing the business in the way that’s right for her How Elise is going to spend her sabbatical year and what she means when she says personal projects Her description of creative flow state and what it does for our brains And so much more! Who is Elise Kutt? Multi-passionate entrepreneur, speaker, educator, photographer, boutique owner With over 15 years experience behind the camera, Elise Kutt has established herself as a trailblazer of the industry, opening her portrait studio, Mod Bettie in 2014 followed by her lingerie boutique, Naughty Bettie in 2018. She’s co-hosted over 20 retreats around the world with entrepreneur bestie Wandering Roots , was named west Michigan’s Remarkable Woman of the Year in 2023, and continues to build community around her alternative wellness lifestyle brand. 💪🏼 You can join the free online community on Facebook called #SquadBettie here . Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 131. The 1st Annual Innovative Therapist Retreat is in the books! It’s been almost 3 weeks, and it’s time to share how it went. This episode is more about my experience hosting and some early reflections. More later on the healing power of community, and other’s experiences. If you are thinking of creating something innovative, this episode is for you! What to Expect in this Episode I cover: The report on the Inaugural Innovative Therapist Retreat! (please listen to this previous episode about Creating Something Useful for the full retreat creation backstory) My intention with this event and what it involved What I witnessed in the participants Guidance on how to decide what to create outside of the 1 on 1 model of therapy practice (including how Human Design can inform how each of us may be different in this) Why I think I got super sick after the retreat What I’ve learned about myself in the 3 weeks since it’s been done The pros and cons of hosting a retreat from a business perspective (and the answer to the question, “Did it feel like a paid vacation for me?”) And so much more! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 130. This episode is the first I’ve talked about my relationship to food in a while, but I woke up feeling compelled to share on this topic, so I went with it. I cover how our relationship with food can have parallels to our relationship to money and how all of this can impact our ability to trust ourselves and pursue work that feels aligned and good to us. I hope you find it helpful! Without further ado, let’s dive in! What to Expect in this Episode I cover: What I had for breakfast that morning (and why) – I promise there’s a point to this share How my mindset has shifted around food (in the past, and how this continues to impact me now) Parallels between our relationship to food and our relationship with money How the definition of autonomous motivation applies to food, money, and other things and how pursuing “freedom of choice, without excessive pressure” can impact us positively when it comes to lasting motivation The impact of focusing on calories in versus out How working on gut health can help with symptoms like headaches, skin health, etc. in surprising ways And other musings! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 129. I have loved this quote from Howard Thurman for years: “Don’t ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people who have come alive.” The concept of Zone of Genius was introduced to me 2 years ago and I find it so incredibly helpful. So today, I’ll be sharing it with you. Without further ado, let’s dive in! What to Expect in this Episode I cover: What is Zone of Genius and why should you care about it? Where I initially learned about it What are the 4 Zones to understand, and what does it mean if you are stuck in your Zone of Competence or Excellence What are some questions to ask yourself to help figure out your Zone of Genius How can you move towards working more in your Zone of Genius? Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 128. I’ve never been more convinced of the power of creativity in creating amazing things in the world, in our bodies, and in our businesses. Today’s episode is a solo episode where I dive into my thoughts on this based on my conversation last episode with Marlys Woods, LMFT. Check out that conversation here . Without further ado, let’s dive in! What to Expect in this Episode I cover the following: How we, and I, have de-valued music and the arts as a form of healing in the past Why I think it’s essential now more than ever that we re-connect with it as we explore innovative approaches to the many problems of the world Collective healing with music and missed opportunities with a life devoid of arts and music How connecting with creativity through music and dance has been incredibly healing to me in a very short time My reflections on the healing that occurred in simply discussing my emotional experience with a song with Marlys (Including discussion about the song I talked to Marlys about which can be found here ) (includes an example of a protector part of me, and an exiled one who has held a burden) Using music and dance and other creative expression to connect with pre-verbal parts The importance of getting the emotion out of you, versus isolating in it The impact of creativity in creating sustainable businesses that work around your life (with Marlys Woods and Megan Gunnell as really fascinating examples of this) How you can be sure to hear if Marlys and I do a collaborative experiential event for therapists to experience the healing power of music (we are already brainstorming on this) And so much more! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer : This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure : Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 127. Saddle up and get ready listeners! We are talking about music and healing today. Yes! I hope you are as excited as I am. I've been searching for the perfect guest to come on and talk about this, and let me tell you, I found her. How Music Can Heal Us (But Also Can Cause Harm) Marlys Woods of Get In Tune Music Therapy is a board certified music therapist and also a licensed marriage and family therapist. Without further ado, let’s dive in! What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: How Marlys came to doing this work and the role music and singing have played in her life How this specific way of using music in the mental health world is actually a very small movement, and what that's been like for Marlys (and the opportunity it could provide for those who are interested) How Marlys has to be innovative with her work and business (and how she didn't actually want to do this at first) What a music therapy session might look like, including a specific song from my life (can be found here if you want to listen to it and follow along!) - this was a huge aha for me and opened up a new level of healing that I will share about in this episode and the one that follows How music can be harmful How to use it in a helpful way Common fears for therapists and clients about connecting with creativity Should therapists dabble with using music in sessions without training in music therapy How you can be sure to hear if Marlys and I do a collaborative experiential event for therapists and helpers to experience the healing power of music (we are already brainstorming on this) And so much more! Who is Marlys Woods Board-Certified Music Therapist and Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist Provides a specialized approach to using music in mental health recovery settings including addiction, eating disorder, anxiety and depression Passionate about using her knowledge of relationships, people, and music to help those struggling with mental health Believes music therapy is an integral part of mental health recovery Services include therapist and facility trainings, direct therapy services, and self-study programs Serves treatment sites in Southern California and the Greater Denver Area, and offers virtual services worldwide Watch Marlys's video about how music can harm here. Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 126. Welcome to the first solo episode of an experiment I'm really excited about! I've done around 60 podcast interviews now (!!) and I LOVE it. So freaking much. I want them to last forever and I have so much to say, but also I learn so much during and after the interviews. So my new experiment, starting now is I will do a solo episode where I dive in to the topics that arose for me during the previous interview episode, where I can reflect on it, what I learned, and share more of my experiences related to the topic in a way that we didn't have time for (without a 2 hour episode)!. For today's episode, I expand on my talk with Megan Gunnell. To here the initial interview, go here. I am setting these episodes up so that you don't have to listen to the interview episode first, but you may want to go back to it after you listen to this episode. What to Expect In This Episode Topics and questions covered: Does psychotherapy training strip us our our creativity and self trust? Should we as therapists pursue other ways of making money outside of 1 on 1 therapy? How did I end up deciding to create a retreat for therapists? How am I feeling about it? My journey and process with creating a retreat for the fall of October 2024 What did I/we learn from talking to Megan Gunnell about her process with creating so many amazing offerings outside of traditional 1 to 1 therapy How has human design impacted me over the past few months? What is a Zone of Genius and how can it help us work smarter, not harder? And much more... To listen to my interview with Megan Gunnell, go here. To get on the waitlist for the next retreat, sign up here! Are you a therapist or helping looking to get connected with The Innovative Therapist Community? To sign up for online events for therapists, go here to sign up for our next virtual event. Even if you can't make the date, you will be the first to know about future free or paid community virtual events. If you are local to Michigan sign up here for details about local events! Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship. Disclosure: Using the Bookshop.org links in this post means that I would get an affiliate fee if you purchase from the online bookshop (this supports my business, and local bookstores too!).…
Episode 125. This week's podcast episode was so good. I had been following Megan Gunnell's work for a while. And then unexpectedly, she reached out to me. (!!) This sort of feels like what it might feel like for a celeb to reach out and ask to hang out. She asked if I might want to meet up and talk about the potential for collaboration. Umm... yes please! We talked about potential for collaboration sometime next year (yay), but first, we decided to record this podcast. A wealth of experience with THRIVING Megan really is a representation of how I want to feel about my business and frankly, she's doing a lot of things that look amazing, like hosting retreats in Costa Rica and Italy. She's such a model of what creative thinking can do for you, and how it can help you develop more healing modalities as a therapist in and out of the therapy room. I think this is a model any human can follow. And we cover the simple, but not easy steps to tapping into her intuition and having the courage to follow her path. Without further ado, let's dive in! What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: How Megan came to doing the amazing work she does today, including a story about the time she hosted something that totally flopped The role creativity has played in her career journey, the times she was disconnected from creativity and how this impacted her How she incorporated playing the harp into her 1 on 1 therapy sessions and the impact it had for her clients Guidance for how to determine what work "sets your soul on fire" and the difference between fear because you aren't ready, and fear because you really are Her journey with 25 years of hosting retreats and some of the many lessons she's learned The book that lead her to realize that holding a retreat is a calling for her How to determine if holding retreats is right for you and how to explore this question in a low risk way (including several great questions to reflect on for yourself) Her specific process the month before holding a large retreat or event Upcoming offerings including her Costa Rica Summit and a Retreat Intensive Program, see her many offerings for therapists here And so much more! Who is Megan Gunnell? Megan Gunnell, LMSW is Founder & Director of the Thriving Well Institute, psychotherapist, group practice owner, speaker, #1 bestselling author of “Thriving as a Therapist” and international retreat leader with over 25 years experience. She provides coaching, online courses, retreats and summits to therapists who want to learn how to build and scale their business. She’s the admin of the Thriving Therapists® FB group with over 20,000 members. Megan received the Meta Community Accelerator Award for 2022-2023 for having one of the highest engaged facebook communities in all of North America. She has presented and facilitated workshops and retreats globally and nationwide. A recovering perfectionist and recklessly brave, she's not afraid of most challenges. You can find out more at: www.thrivingwellinstitute.com Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or experience the IFS model, get on my email list here and/or email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com to introduce yourself! Disclaimer: This blog and podcast is for informational and educational purposes only. It is not a substitute for individual professional advice or treatment, including medical or mental health advice. It does not constitute a provider-patient relationship.…
Episode 124. I get a lot of podcast pitches. Many of them, it's clear they've never listened to my podcast and have zero idea about my audience. Others are pitching people that have truly nothing to do with what a do (men's hair removal expert, anyone? Just why?). Someone reached out to me to introduce Ann though and I was intrigued (I mean, read the bullets below, wouldn't you be?). I did my due diligence and listened to another podcast interview she did. And I immediately knew I had to have her on. Her willingness to be open about her unique experiences growing up with her dad, his partner, and her mom all the in same house in the 80s is really fascinating. And her compassionate take on the evangelical conservative Christian approach to LGBTQ+ is really quite inspiring. Without further ado, let's dive in! What to Expect in this Episode We cover the following: How Ann came to doing the work she does today What she learned from growing up in a queer household in the 80s What she learned from attending a religious conversion conference as a queer female How she is able to cultivate so much compassion for others who believe anything outside of heterosexuality is a sin The most common issues LGBTQ+ members face and where she sees therapists miss the mark and cause harm Ways she's engaged in healing that is outside of traditional talk therapy (I loved her answer on this!) Her main takeaway she wants people to know when it comes to LGBTQ+ emotional well-being and mental health And so much more! Who is Ann Russo? Ann Russo, is a business founder, psychotherapist, author, and mental health advocate with an MA in Theology from Loyola Marymount and an MSW from Long Beach State. In 2018, she founded AMR Therapy to provide culturally sensitive mental health services to queer communities and other underserved populations. Under her leadership, AMR Therapy has served over 1500 clients with a dedicated team of just 15 therapists and administrators. Ann is a trained domestic violence and sexual assault advocate, specializing in trauma-informed care and first responder crisis management. She is currently developing specialized Continuing Education Units (CEUs) for therapists, focusing on critical topics such as ethical non-monogamy, sexual empowerment, religious trauma, and queerness. These CEUs are essential for professionals seeking to enhance their skills and better serve diverse populations. Ann also offers consulting services to mental health providers on these topics. Her upcoming book, "Her Own Terms," delves into modern female sexuality using cognitive behavioral therapy, sex-positive perspectives, and psychodynamic insights. Raised in a queer, non-monogamous household, Ann’s personal and professional experiences enrich her approach, making her a relatable and insightful figure in the mental health field. Ann is a prominent advocate for mental health and sexual positivity, frequently featured in articles, podcasts, and interviews. You can work with a therapist at AMR Therapy or connect with Ann directly by visiting the websites below. You can connect with Ann by joining her email list here. Website for Ann's group practice is: https://www.amrtherapy.com/ Ann's website: https://www.annrusso.org To work with Ann or a member of her team, email her at ann@amrtherapy.com and mention "Body" in the email to let her know how you heard about her work. For 20% off CEU coursework, sign up here. Wanting more support beyond these podcasts? I am currently accepting new therapy clients if you live in one of these 40 states in the US My rate for an intake session is $220 and for a 45 minute follow up is $195 If interested in learning more, including my availability and details about my practice, email me at info@drshawnhondorp.com or call 616-227-0001 Or if you are a therapist of helping professional looking to connect in community and learn more about or e...…
Episode 123. Today's solo episode is all about my thoughts about Creativity. I've been thinking about this topic a LOT lately. And it's been incredibly fun. I read this book recently and already am re-listening to it. It's Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear by Elizabeth Gilbert and I've found it really inspiring. I have really been slowing down to think about how I can add creativity into my personal and professional life and how others can do the same. So this podcast episode is all about my thoughts on creativity, including how I've evolved to use creativity as a psychologist and also in my personal life. I can't wait to share it with you! Words of Wisdom Quote from Elizabeth Gilbert: "You're not required to save the world with your creativity. Your art not only doesn't have to be original, in other words, it also doesn't have to be important. For example, whenever anyone tells me that they want to write a book in order to help other people I always think 'Oh, please don't." Do it for Yourself? That quote actually really makes me laugh out loud. So much of what I've learned in the online marketing world is about knowing your audience and speaking to their pain points. In my training as a psychologist, I was taught to always focus on the other person and their needs, helping them to conceptualize their struggles, and from there, give suggestions to help. None of these suggestions are bad, and yet, none of them teach us how to listen to our own bodies as we are marketing or delivering therapy. And the more I do both of those things, the more I think that's actually the most essential skill to learn... "I'm not a creative person." I've said this so many times. I still sometimes say it. But now at least I'm catching myself. We all have creativity in us. It maybe got shoved down, but it's there. And re-engaging with it can be deeply healing. In IFS it is said that when we can notice and get space and separation from our Parts, the 8 C qualities of self emerge: Creativity, Curiosity, Connection, Courage, Calm, Clarity, Compassion, and Confidence. There are also 5 P words that can emerge, including, Presence, Persistence, Perspective, Playfulness, Patience. Play and creativity are essential for how kids learn and I for one am excited to continue to rediscover this as an adult. Why We Should Care About Creativity “A creative life is an amplified life. It’s a bigger life, a happier life, an expanded life, and a hell of a lot more interesting life. Living in this manner – continually and stubbornly bringing forth the jewels that are hidden within you – is a fine art, in and of itself.” -Elizabeth Gilbert I'll be perfectly honest, I want to convince you that creativity is important. I went online and started searching in Google Scholar. There are definitely some articles to support this. Liz Gilbert's book has more ideas on this. I come from a heavily science and math focused background. My dad was an engineer, and my mom taught math, and later computers, and then taught technology to other teachers. I can't say that I grew up truly understanding the immense value of creative works. When I did art at school, perfectionism was majorly on the scene. If it wasn't perfect, I'd freak out (internally or externally, depending on my age). Dancing as Creativity My main exposure to the arts and creative expression was the fact that I danced from age 8 to 18, and the again for a few years in college on a college Pompon team. I witnessed creativity, but I never felt creative. I struggled with choreography. I would just put together tricks I already knew, do a double turn into an axel jump, then jump forward and do a kick and a leap. Ways I Engage in Creativity Today Podcasting Blogging Thinking of new ways to engage clients and therapists in innovative ways to heal themselves (while, creatively, healing myself too - see what I did there?…
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