#2 Against the Rule of the Sword — In Conversation with Shira Ben-Sasson Furstenberg

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In this episode of the EPICON Podcast, Pascal Bernard (Political Officer at the Candid Foundation) speaks with Shira Ben-Sasson Furstenberg, Associate Director of the New Israel Fund. Together, they explore Shira’s personal story, her faith, her work in Israeli civil society, and her vision for peace in Palestine and Israel.

Drawing on her deeply personal family history – including the remarkable stories of how both her grandmothers survived thanks to the courage of others during the Hebron massacre of 1929 and the Holocaust in Ukraine – Shira reflects on the power of human solidarity across borders.

As a modern Orthodox Jew, she is part of a small but determined community that places compassion, equality, and responsibility at the heart of Jewish life. In her role at the New Israel Fund, she works for peace, democracy, and coexistence.

Shira’s voice – rare, courageous, and profoundly human – offers a vision that is more urgent and necessary than ever.

About EPICON: Palestinian and Israeli civil society still has agency—agency over shaping the current realities and the future of Palestine and Israel. Against all odds, courageous individuals from both sides are choosing to engage, to defy political stagnation, and to present concrete ideas and plans for a peaceful solution.

These individuals insist that peace is not simply a diplomatic agreement; it must be built on the ground, through dialogue, human connection, and shared commitment. They claim that it is the responsibility of political leaders to listen and to translate their insights and proposals into decision-making and real action.

Our Palestinian and Israeli guests on this podcast include former prisoners and soldiers, relatives of hostages, leading peace activists and mediators, scholars, legal experts, and more—voices rarely heard in Europe. They bring forward-thinking, pragmatic, and actionable ideas in response to a central question: What can Europe do?

Moderated by Meryem-Lyn Oral

Recorded at Publix Berlin - with special thanks to Frederic Gaillard for his support.

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