Gwyneth Paltrow x Ella Bell Smith and Stella Nkomo: Race and Gender in the Workplace

The goop Podcast

GP is joined by Ella Bell Smith and Stella Nkomo, coauthors of Our Separate Ways: Black and White Women and the Struggle for Professional Identity. Based on groundbreaking research, the book uncovers how race and gender shape our workplaces, careers, and relationships with our colleagues. Today, GP, Smith, and Nkomo discuss their recently updated book and how our understanding of race, gender, class, and power has changed—and stalled—over the last twenty years. The authors share what makes them hopeful today. And they explain their approach to engaging in complex conversations and executing structural and cultural shifts that have the power to rebuild our workplaces and communities.

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